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Gogirlgo
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 Posted: 10/21/04 - 10:48 Post subject:
If you think "leadership" is based on your spouse blindly agreeing with everything you say, I can see that.
But I don't.
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Pug
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Posted: 10/21/04 - 10:54 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: | If you think "leadership" is based on your spouse blindly agreeing with everything you say, I can see that.
But I don't. |
I don't, either. But politics is as much about image as it is anything else, and with the exception of Ah-nuld and Maria Shriver, a dissenting spouse presents a bad image.
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elkid
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Posted: 10/21/04 - 10:57 Post subject:
| Pug wrote: | | But politics is as much about image as it is anything else, and with the exception of Ah-nuld and Maria Shriver, a dissenting spouse presents a bad image. |
True, but I'd rather see some refreshing honesty than blatant lies of cohesion and solidarity.
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Posted: 10/21/04 - 10:59 Post subject:
| elkid wrote: |
True, but I'd rather see some refreshing honesty than blatant lies of cohesion and solidarity. |
But you probably won't. It's probably easier with Shriver because she has been openly part of the other party for years. With a candidate you are only just getting to know and just seeing the spouse, dissent is less likely and i'm sure any campaign manager is giving just that message.
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elkid
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Posted: 10/21/04 - 11:01 Post subject:
| Pug wrote: | | But you probably won't. It's probably easier with Shriver because she has been openly part of the other party for years. With a candidate you are only just getting to know and just seeing the spouse, dissent is less likely and i'm sure any campaign manager is giving just that message. |
Any person who thinks that Laura Bush, Political Puppet is that smiley and happy all the time, and is so in her husband's corner all the time, is an idiot. She's so saccharine at times she makes me cringe. What a role model for women. 
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BamBam
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Posted: 10/21/04 - 11:10 Post subject:
I think a better role model for women is to marry into rich and powerful families and live off of their husbands fortunes or vicariously thru their political aspirations
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Gogirlgo
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Posted: 10/21/04 - 11:14 Post subject:
Funny how only the strong ones are ever accused of trying to live vicariously through their husbands. Oh yeah, the other one's a senator now, while her husband is sitting at home.
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BamBam
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Posted: 10/21/04 - 11:17 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: | | Funny how only the strong ones are ever accused of trying to live vicariously through their husbands. Oh yeah, the other one's a senator now, while her husband is sitting at home. |
What is the shortest measure of time?
The time it took for Teresa to bury her first husband and find the most eligible senator available.
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Posted: 10/21/04 - 11:19 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: | | Funny how only the strong ones are ever accused of trying to live vicariously through their husbands. Oh yeah, the other one's a senator now, while her husband is sitting at home. |
I dunno, I remember Nancy Reagan getting a lot of crap about being a beeeyotch.....not just about her weirdo astrology fetish. I think a lot of it, and this isn't meant as an insult to Southerners, is breeding--and I mean "proper" breeding. Laura's from the South, as are some of the other less controversial wives, couldn't that have something to do with the way girls were brought up to be "ladies" back in the day? I do agree that aggressive women do take a lot of heat about "not knowing their place" even in these more modern times, but.....
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Posted: 10/21/04 - 11:20 Post subject:
| BamBam wrote: |
What is the shortest measure of time?
The time it took for Teresa to bury her first husband and find the most eligible senator available. |
<snicker>
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elkid
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Posted: 10/21/04 - 11:23 Post subject:
| BamBam wrote: | | I think a better role model for women is to marry into rich and powerful families and live off of their husbands fortunes or vicariously thru their political aspirations |
Sounds like a smart lady to me. Frees her up to do good, philanthropic works. One overlooks her accomplishments simply because she's so refreshingly outspoken.
| Quote: | Teresa Heinz Kerry brings extraordinary ability, experience, and accomplishment to her husband’s campaign for President. Her extensive philanthropic work finding solutions to many of the most pressing challenges facing our nation, demonstrates she will be a leader helping our nation explore these issues, such as protecting the environment, our children, and the rights of women. She has been a fighter for human rights, and a strong supporter of the arts.
Born in Mozambique, fluent in several languages, she has combined compassion and common sense to become a force for innovation and social progress as leader of one of the nation's large private foundations. After studying at the University of the Witwatersrand in South Africa and the University of Geneva, she moved to the United States and got a job working for the Trusteeship Council of the United Nations. In 1966, she married Senator John Heinz whom she met when they were graduate students and with whom she had three sons. Shortly after celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary in 1991, she lost her husband in a plane crash.
Turning down offers to seek election to her husband's Senate seat to take care of her sons, family and professional responsibilities, she became chairman of The Howard Heinz Endowment and the Heinz Family Philanthropies. Under her leadership, the Heinz foundations are widely known for developing innovative strategies to protect the environment, improve education and the lives of young children, reduce the cost of prescription drugs, promote the arts and help women achieve financial economic security. She established the Women's Institute for a Secure Retirement in 1996 to educate women about pensions, savings, and retirement security.
Their mutual interest in environmental issues brought Teresa and John together. She was first introduced to John Kerry by Senator Heinz at an Earth Day rally in 1990. In 1992, she met Kerry again at the Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro when President George H. W. Bush appointed her as part of a State Department Delegation representing U.S. non-governmental organizations. She and Sen. Kerry were married in the presence of her three sons and his two daughters on Memorial Day weekend in 1995. Teresa has received numerous awards and 10 honorary degrees for her many works. In September of last year, she was presented with the Albert Schweitzer Gold Medal for Humanitarianism, for her work protecting the environment, promoting health care and education and uplifting women and children throughout the world. She was elected a fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in 2001.
In addition to her three sons and two step-daughters, Teresa is the almost inordinately (but understandably) proud grandmother of one grandchild. |
| Quote: | Teresa Heinz Kerry is "chairman of The Heinz Endowments and the Heinz Family Philanthropies, institutions dedicated to developing innovative strategies to protect the environment, improve education, enhance the lives of young children, broaden economic opportunity and promote the arts.
"Teresa has helped educate women on the importance of pensions, savings, and retirement security. She established the Women's Institute for a Secure Retirement, a Washington-based think tank and underwrote publication of a nationally-acclaimed book, Pensions in Crisis and a magazine supplement, What Every Woman Needs to Know About Money and Retirement. The supplement was published in Good Housekeeping and US Airway's Attaché magazine and has been translated into Chinese, Portuguese, and Spanish.
"She directed development of the Heinz Plan to Overcome Prescription Drug Expenses (HOPE), a program to make prescription drugs affordable for older Americans in Massachusetts. Similar programs have been studied or adopted in seven other states, including Pennsylvania, Maine and Mississippi.
"She established the prestigious Heinz Awards, an annual program recognizing outstanding vision and achievement in the arts, public policy, technology, the environment, and the human condition.
"A longtime environmentalist, she created the H. John Heinz III Center for Science, Economics and the Environment to develop scientifically sound environmental policies. She has endowed two environmental chairs at Harvard, sponsors scholarship programs for graduate students studying environmental issues and undergraduate minority group students who study science. She also sponsors an annual conference on Women's Health and the Environment in Boston.
"She serves on many boards including Environmental Defense, the Alliance to End Childhood Lead Poisoning and the Advisory Council for the Center for Children's Health and the Environment at Mount Sinai School of Medicine. She is a trustee of the Brookings Institution and sits on the Visiting Committee for the Kennedy School and the school-wide environmental committee for Harvard University. She serves on the board of the American Institute for Public Service (Jefferson Awards) and is a fellow for the American Academy of Arts and Sciences.
"Born and raised in Mozambique, she earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in romance languages and literature from the University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, South Africa and graduated from the Interpreters School of the University of Geneva. Teresa Heinz Kerry, formerly Teresa Simões-Ferreira, is married to U.S. Senator John Forbes Kerry, the Massachusetts Democrat. She has three sons, John, André and Christopher Heinz, and one grandchild." |
| BamBam wrote: | What is the shortest measure of time?
The time it took for Teresa to bury her first husband and find the most eligible senator available. |
4 years is a short time?
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Posted: 10/21/04 - 11:47 Post subject:
Looks like she met Kerry pretty quickly after her hubby died.
Secondly living in Pittsburgh I know all the philanthropic work that the Heinz Foundation does, but thanks for the bio
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elkid
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Posted: 10/21/04 - 11:51 Post subject:
| BamBam wrote: | Looks like she met Kerry pretty quickly after her hubby died.
Secondly living in Pittsburgh I know all the philanthropic work that the Heinz Foundation does, but thanks for the bio |
She met him a year after he died, married him 3 years after that.
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Posted: 10/21/04 - 11:56 Post subject:
| elkid wrote: |
She met him a year after he died, married him 3 years after that. |
Thanks, but according to your bio she met him the year before her hubby died.
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Posted: 10/21/04 - 11:58 Post subject:
| BamBam wrote: | | Thanks, but according to your bio she met him the year before her hubby died. |
Made his acquaintance, then "met" as in smoochie bootches.
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