this bothered me Saturday
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
keltic63
the kilted one
|
|
|
Joined: 17 May 2002
Posts: 8574
Location: under the weather
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/11/03 - 23:34 Post subject: this bothered me Saturday
I rode a few rides at the amusement park sat., but since I was not with my family, I didn't go for the hardcore ride experience. I watched people for a fair part of the day and I noticed that MANY of them were obese. Not just carrying 5-10 pounds extra, but actually OBESE. I just did a quick search and found a statistic that claims 64% of Adults in the US are obese. I guess most of them showed up at King's Island saturday.
2 of the Dad's that followed the tour bus had the biggest bellies you'd want to see. 1 of them was prolly my age, and the other is younger for sure. I know that it took my utter disgust and then some great resolve on my part to lose my excess weight. What is it going to take for everyone else? our nation will be facing a serious health crisis with obesity-related diseases like diabetes and heart disease. some cancers appear to be related to obesity.
Anyone else find this discouraging too? or should i just keep my big mouth shut?
|
|
|
|
|
Cappy
Excelent
|
|
|
Joined: 16 May 2002
Posts: 27368
Location: Spreadsheetylvania
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/12/03 - 05:17 Post subject:
Its a big time problem Steve, and it just seems to be getting worse all the time.
|
|
|
|
|
BamBam
Member
|
|
|
Joined: 05 Sep 2002
Posts: 2974
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/12/03 - 05:32 Post subject:
Look at it this way- if everyone else dies of obesity......
More food for you.
Yes I do see what your talking about, especially at amusement parks.
My main thoughts were why do people insist on wearing skin tight closes, specifically belly shirts and low riding jeans, if they are about 20-25 pounds heavier than those clothes allow.
I carry a extra poundage and don't have a problem with people carrying extra weight, but I don't necessary want to see where you are carrying it.
|
|
|
|
|
Floridaboiler
POTFH
|
|
|
Joined: 18 May 2002
Posts: 11322
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/12/03 - 05:47 Post subject:
| BamBam wrote: | Look at it this way- if everyone else dies of obesity......
More food for you.
Yes I do see what your talking about, especially at amusement parks.
My main thoughts were why do people insist on wearing skin tight closes, specifically belly shirts and low riding jeans, if they are about 20-25 pounds heavier than those clothes allow.
I carry a extra poundage and don't have a problem with people carrying extra weight, but I don't necessary want to see where you are carrying it.  |
[scroll:760339724a]BIG FAT [/scroll:760339724a]
|
|
|
|
|
copteacher
Adjunct
|
|
|
Joined: 08 Jun 2002
Posts: 20588
Location: Teaching in the Halls of Justice
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/12/03 - 07:16 Post subject:
It is not the people's problem remember it is the fast food companies for not offering healthy choices
|
|
|
|
|
akern
Member
|
|
|
Joined: 31 May 2002
Posts: 17149
Location: CTU
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/12/03 - 07:36 Post subject:
I know what you mean Steve. My husbands niece is 19 and probably 300lbs. We went to a BB-Q the other day, and the whole time she was snarfing down 3 heaping plates of food she was talking abut going on a diet. People have to learn how to help themselves instead of blaming everything on someone else.
|
|
|
|
|
robp
Pyromaniac
|
|
|
Joined: 26 Jul 2002
Posts: 16242
Location: Waiting in line at the beer store...
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/12/03 - 07:37 Post subject:
There was a young lady (early 20's i'd guess) at gym this morning on a treadmill wearing very tights shorts and a top that showed off her gut. And a gut it was. She was probably 20 lbs overweight and the get-up she had on definitely showed off where the extra weight was located.
|
|
|
|
|
omega lambda
Member
|
|
|
Joined: 14 May 2002
Posts: 4691
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/12/03 - 11:02 Post subject:
Most of you know Grizzly from over at CR. He visited the US recently for a family vacation and then posted about it. It really bothered me that one of his observations was that a lot of (most?) Americans were overweight. I think it is really a shame that the impression we give as a country is that of over-abundance. Over-abundance about a lot of things though, the cars we drive, the homes we live in, the portions we eat, and of course, the size of our bodies.
Another thing that bothers me is this idea that we are headed for a national crisis. I agree obesity is apparently out of control, but whose problem is it? I am really, really, really tired of the American mentality that nothing is my fault. There is no personal accountability any more. We are seeing the beginnings, and hopefully the failure of, litigation against food suppliers because the people stuffing their mouths have no self control and want someone else to blame.
If people can't control themselves, and the government feels obligated to step in, what's next? What will the government want to control because the people can't control themselves? I don't like BIG government. I've always thought that the less the government intrudes in my life the better. But it seems as though I am destined for BIG government because the people in this country don't and won't take care of themselves. The more we, as people, refuse to accept accountability and responsiblity, the more power we give to our government to take over our lives. Afraid of John Ashcroft? Perhaps you should be more afraid of your neighbor.
|
|
|
|
|
shelflifers
Member
|
|
|
Joined: 10 Jun 2002
Posts: 18633
Location: Austin, TX
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/12/03 - 11:23 Post subject:
What a dilemna this is...and great points, Omega. Obviously, since we're all runners who try to be as healthy as possible, we'll probably all agree on this issue. Personal Accountability...something that can't be governed or enforced.
Instead of being angry most of the times, I'm usually much more sad. Especially when I see my family members who I'd say that 3/4 of them fall into that category of obese.
The ONLY problem I have with them is when some of them DO try to pass the buck...making them look only siller and more sad. I've talked to them alot about this. It's easy for us to point fingers and nod in disaproval but WE aren't the ones overweight and have the bad habits to battle every second of the day. Sure, we work our butts off and 'yahoo!' for us! But not everyone can be like us. And for those of you that did lose alot of weight, my hat goes off to you. I'm sure you'll be the first to say that it wasn't easy. But you had the drive and determination to stay positive, determined and look where it got you?
But like I said, not everyone has it in them.
Hmmm...forgot my point.
|
|
|
|
|
genie
Master of Prissface
|
|
|
Joined: 14 May 2002
Posts: 16194
Location: Finding serenity one day at a time
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/12/03 - 11:25 Post subject:
Big 1 to everything above, ESPECIALLY the point that it is OUR responsibility as individuals to take care of our health, however the majority of people in this country either don't want to do the work involved or want an easy fix, i.e. Meridia, Xenical, Metabolife, etc....
It frustrates me to NO end that Americans as a whole seem to want it all, kind of what OL said about the overabundance thing. They want to be able to eat double quarter pounders with cheese, biggie fries and milkshakes AND be thin without having to work out or cut back on their portion sizes, take the time to shop for and cook healthy foods or at least make healthy choices when dining out. I think that's a really sad statement about our whole country and how high the entitlement factor is here. We have it all and still want more, yet we complain when our health and appearance suffers. I know that sounds generalized, and I am sure there are many cases where there are other factors going on, underactive thyroid, etc....but take this for example:
I watched a special on Discovery about gastric bypass surgery, which a very good and unhealthily overweight friend of mine is seriously considering. I love her to death and could care less what she looks like but I am worried about her health. This whole process bothers me immensely, mainly because it's DANGEROUS but also because you are basically deciding to mutilate your body so that the responsibility of choosing what and how much to eat is taken away from you. Many of the people in the documentary spoke about a lot of emotional issues that made them turn to food for comfort, which I can understand, having wrestled with an eating disorder for many years myself.....but having your stomach stapled closed is NOT going to get rid of those emotional issues!!!! Therapy might, but again, that's work and it isn't going to happen in one session.
I was pretty overweight for my height when I started back to running three years ago, having been very ill and unable to do much physical activity for several years, and it was DAMNED HARD to run being fat. Having been thin all my life, it was even more difficult to accept the dimished level at which I could now do things. Everything hurt, I was slower than I am now, I had no wind, but you know what? It paid off....I lost almost 50 lbs and while I'm not really where I want to be yet, I feel and look a lot better and exercising got easier as I got thinner. I'm sure others of you here who have lost a considerable amount of weight can attest to the same. THERE IS NO MAGIC BULLET!!
What I want to know is, what makes us any different from other people, and why did we care enough about our bodies to suck it up through the difficulty of losing weight and exercising with a larger load in the beginning and so many others refuse to? What message is that sending to the kids in this country? I too have absolutely nothing against anyone who is overweight, because I've been on both sides of the spectrum, including unhealthily thin, which wasn't good either, but don't expect to have it both ways. You can't, at least not without causing some detriment to your health.
|
|
|
|
|
runswithscissors
Member
|
|
|
Joined: 15 May 2002
Posts: 8797
Location: In a badger state of mind
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/12/03 - 11:30 Post subject:
I wouldn't consider myself obese, but the 'statistics' would probably show otherwise. I'm definitely heavier than I want to be, but I've been much worse. I love to run, but I also like good food and beer. I'm just not one to give up good food for cardboard. Sure, sure, smaller portions. I've gotten better on that one.
I think a lot of it has to do with how you were brought up. Guess I was brought up on good food.
It's the people who whine about it but never even try that frustrates me.
|
|
|
|
|
BamBam
Member
|
|
|
Joined: 05 Sep 2002
Posts: 2974
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/12/03 - 11:33 Post subject:
| shelflifers wrote: | What a dilemna this is...and great points, Omega. Obviously, since we're all runners who try to be as healthy as possible, we'll probably all agree on this issue. Personal Accountability...something that can't be governed or enforced.
Instead of being angry most of the times, I'm usually much more sad. Especially when I see my family members who I'd say that 3/4 of them fall into that category of obese.
The ONLY problem I have with them is when some of them DO try to pass the buck...making them look only siller and more sad. I've talked to them alot about this. It's easy for us to point fingers and nod in disaproval but WE aren't the ones overweight and have the bad habits to battle every second of the day. Sure, we work our butts off and 'yahoo!' for us! But not everyone can be like us. And for those of you that did lose alot of weight, my hat goes off to you. I'm sure you'll be the first to say that it wasn't easy. But you had the drive and determination to stay positive, determined and look where it got you?
But like I said, not everyone has it in them.
Hmmm...forgot my point. |
Hey for forgeting your point you made a very good one or two.
|
|
|
|
|
shelflifers
Member
|
|
|
Joined: 10 Jun 2002
Posts: 18633
Location: Austin, TX
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/12/03 - 11:39 Post subject:
Chris Farley once said in an interview:
"Man, I wake up, look in the mirror, and it's like I've already lost...every single day..."
|
|
|
|
|
runswithscissors
Member
|
|
|
Joined: 15 May 2002
Posts: 8797
Location: In a badger state of mind
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/12/03 - 11:41 Post subject:
| shelflifers wrote: | Chris Farley once said in an interview:
"Man, I wake up, look in the mirror, and it's like I've already lost...every single day..." |
He sure lost, didn't he?
|
|
|
|
|
genie
Master of Prissface
|
|
|
Joined: 14 May 2002
Posts: 16194
Location: Finding serenity one day at a time
|
| Back to top
|
|
Posted: 05/12/03 - 11:44 Post subject:
| runswithscissors wrote: | I wouldn't consider myself obese, but the 'statistics' would probably show otherwise. I'm definitely heavier than I want to be, but I've been much worse. I love to run, but I also like good food and beer. I'm just not one to give up good food for cardboard. Sure, sure, smaller portions. I've gotten better on that one.
I think a lot of it has to do with how you were brought up. Guess I was brought up on good food.
It's the people who whine about it but never even try that frustrates me. |
Me too. You just said it in fewer words.
I love to cook and therefore love to eat. Now that I've finally gotten comfortable around food again, anyway. Which is really why I work out. Yes, I enjoy it and it's good for me, stress relief, etc...but I also know that I can eat more of the things I like to eat without having to be a freak about calories or fat or whatever, as long as I am training consistently.
But there is a big difference between being an elite athlete who watches every drop of food that goes into his or her body and runs 150 miles a week to someone who, in one breath, complains about being overweight, and in the next, when you offer to go walking with them at lunch or rave about how good the grilled chicken salads are at the place you are eating at, says, "oh that's too much work, I don't have time for all that exercise..." and then promptly orders a platter of greasy fried slop.
|
|
|
|
 |
All times are GMT - 4 Hours
|
| Page 1 of 10 |
Related topics: | I am bothered by this too I am not bothered by this I was REALLY bothered by this today hi ho it is the saturday before christmas 21 dec 2002 Saturday's Critically Unimportant Poll Saturday 18 September 2004 awesome saturday for RTPD Saturday's Race Whats up with you guys this Saturday night? Saturday 04 December 2004 Saturday 23 October 2004 CALVIN for a Saturday Hilly Race Saturday Sup saturday raffers Well - the widsom teeth are coming out this Saturday... Ouchie..and anyone else around on a Saturday night? Its Saturday at RTPD so that means it is... Just a Saturday night lurker.... Saturday, 5pm ESPN 2 Saturday Morning Email Clean Up? This is where I'm running on Saturday. Saturday's 5k race my first race is this Saturday Saturday 19 March 2005 Saturday Morning Email Clean Up time again because it's just so true... (Penny Arcade for a Saturday) Trio of Jokes for a Rainy Saturday 2 jokes for a Saturday Nude Beach (Saturday morning Humor for you) No fishin' on lake erie saturday..... Saturday Morning Humor! Late Night Saturday Saturday 04 September 2004 Saturday Morning Humor! Saturday morning reflections..... Warped since of humor this Saturday morning. Suntrust Richmond Marathon, Saturday 11/15 Saturday Morning Email Clean Up time again Saturday Night Chat? Saturday Morning Email Inbox Cleanup Saturday Morning Humor is Back! a little light-hearted Saturday fun St. Patrick's Day 5K Run, Tulsa OK, Saturday, March 13, 2004 Saturday Anniversary Saturday Saturday 11 September 2004 So I'm thinking about running a 5k this Saturday morning Saturday Morning Ravines Run 5 Mile Cross Country Race (Saturday Night) Saturday Morning Puzzles LIVE from Da Burgh...it's Saturday night! Possible forum upgrades this weekend (probably Saturday) Saturday 02 October 2004 anyone busy friday or saturday? Saturday 07 August 2004 Saturday 14 August 2004 Saturday 21 Aug 2004 Saturday 25 September 2004 Saturday Night Poll What Saturday Night Live Character Are You? Saturday 09 October 2004 Saturday October 30th, 2004 Saturday 06 November 2004 Saturday 13 November 2004 Saturday 20 November 2004 So have you folks ever done a Saturday night chat?? Saturday 27 November 2004 Saturday 11 December 2004 Saturday might be my Sunday Saturday 18 December 2004 Saturday 25 December 2004 Saturday 01 January 2005 Saturday 08 January 2005 Saturday night's... Its almost 0700 Saturday Saturday 15 January 2005 Saturday 22 Jan 2005-pre snow storm runs This Coming Saturday Saturday 29 January 2005 Shands Super Bowl 5K (Saturday 01/29) What was wrong with RR Saturday Night? Saturday 05 February 2005 Saturday February 12, 2005 Saturday 12 February 2005 Saturday 19 February 2005 Saturday 26 March 2005 Saturday 02 April 2005 Saturday 09 April 2005 Saturday 16 April 2005 more on my 30 miles Saturday! NFL Draft on Saturday. Dinner Saturday Night Saturday 23 April 2005 Saturday 30 April 2005 I love lazy Saturdays new music saturday Saturday 07 May 2005 Saturday funny saturday 5K Saturday May 14 Prospect Mountain Run Saturday May 14 Saturday 21 May 2005 what i did saturday afternoon... Saturday 27 May 2005 Good luck Saturday June 4 - MickeyVW RESULTS Saturday 04 June 2005 Saturday June 11 2005 Saturday 18 June 2005 Saturday June 18 Saturday 25 June 2005 Saturday 02 July 2005 Saturday night stuff... Saturday 09 July 2005 Saturday 16 July 2005 Saturday Saturday 23 July 2005 Saturday 30 July 2005 Saturday 06 August 2005 Saturday 13 August 2005 Saturday 20 August 2005 Saturday 27 August 2005 Saturday Gas Thread Saturday Thread......HAPPY BIRTHDAY PEBBS!! Saturday 10 September 2005 Saturday 17 September 2005 Saturday 24 September 2005 Saturday October 1 Saturday 01 October 2005 Saturday 08 October 2005 saturday oct. 15th Saturday 22 October 2005 Don't forget to set your clocks back on Saturday Saturday 29 October 2005 Saturday 05 November 2005 Ironman on NBC, Saturday 4:30pm EST Saturday 12 November 2005 Saturday 19 November 2005 9:30 pm on a Saturday Saturday 26 November 2005 Saturday 03 December 2005 Saturday 10 December 2005 Saturday 17 December 2005 Saturday 24 December 2005 Saturday 31 December 2005 Saturday 07 January 2005 Saturday January 14th Saturday 21 January 2006 Saturday night Saturday 28 January 2006 Saturday time waster... Another Saturday Time Waster Saturday Night Fever! Saturday 04 February 2006 2006 Saturday Humor Saturday 11 February 2006 Saturday 18 February 2006 Saturday 25 February 2006 Wide awake @ 7:00 on a Saturday Morning... Saturday 04 March 2006 Saturday Time Waster. Saturday 11 March 2006 Deal Or No Deal? .... Saturday time waster :) Saturday 18 March 2006 Please, can it be Saturday (or Friday night)? Saturday 25 March 2006 Saturday 01 April 2006 Saturday = It's saturday Vibe Request for my Duathlon Saturday Saturday 8 April 2006 Saturday 15 April 2006 Saturday 22 April 2006 Saturday 29 April 2006 aahhh, the first saturday in May Saturday 6 May 2006 Saturday funny Saturday May 13 2006 saturday may 20th Voting on a Saturday saturday may 27th You just bought yourself another Saturday..... Saturday June 3rd Saturday, June 3, MickeyVW...(With Mickey Update !!) Guess who I spent all day Saturday with? Howl at the Moon - Danville IL Saturday, August 12, 2006 saturday june 10th I went to a party last Saturday night Saturday 25Jun06 Saturday 1 July 2006 saturday 8 july 2006 Saturday 15 July 2006 saturday 22 july 2006 Saturday July 29th Saturday 05.Aug.06 Report Saturday's run Saturday 12 August 2006 Saturday 19 August 2006 saturday 26 august 2006 Saturday 02 September 2006 Saturday 09 September 2006 Saturday 16 September 2006 Saturday 23 September 2006 Saturday 30 September 2006 Who's at home Saturday? Saturday, Oct. 7th Saturday 14 October 2006 Saturday 21 October 2006 Saturday, Oct. 28th Saturday race report Daily 11/18 Saturday 6/9/2007
|
|
|