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elkid
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 Posted: 02/24/04 - 21:44 Post subject: someone please explain to me
... how the following are remotely related to child psychology and why I had to listen to the following for 2 hours:
- animal research by the cosmetic injury
- why puppy mills are bad
- PETA, and how it's "good"
- how 5% of medical/psychological research performed on animals is justifiable, but the remaining 95% is performed by mad scientists a la Mengele
- how animal cruelty can be prevented with your dollars
As we're discussing research methods and ethics, I concede this good/bad animal research is a viable topic. But the tangent stuff? How is this appropriate? How is this applicable?
MY GOD HE SHOWED PICTURES! WHY DO WE NEED TO SEE PICTURES?
I finally could no longer bite my tongue and we had A Discussion. I actually asked "This is Child Psychology, right? Not Maniacal So-Far-Left-It's-Off-The-Charts Politics 101?"
Blech. It was the pictures that did me in. Images of vivisection are NEVER appropriate in any class, nonetheless a college level one with impressionable young minds. 
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Maddies Wench
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Posted: 02/24/04 - 21:53 Post subject:
Sounds like the prof will take a soap box where he/she can find it.
The only animal-related reference I ever heard of in child psychology what when a lawyer took a burlap bag into a courtroom in the early part of this century or late last century. He told the them that the owner of this animal in the bag beat, starved, screamed at, etc. this animal and worked the place into a froth as there were animal protection laws. Then he opened the bag and it was a bruised and neglected child. Thus began the child-protection legislation.
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copteacher
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Posted: 02/24/04 - 21:59 Post subject:
I hate profs with an agenda. More than once I commented just wanted the facts, not opinions.
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msparks
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Posted: 02/24/04 - 22:00 Post subject: Re: someone please explain to me
| elkid wrote: | ... how the following are remotely related to child psychology and why I had to listen to the following for 2 hours:
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I finally could no longer bite my tongue and we had A Discussion. I actually asked "This is Child Psychology, right? Not Maniacal So-Far-Left-It's-Off-The-Charts Politics 101?" |
And the answer was....?
Was there an explanation as to how this whole thing was related to the subject of child psychology? I'd have informed him that I was going to bring this up with the department chairman and that if it happened again, I'd be demanding a refund.
Of course, a stronger message could have been sent had you simply gotten up and left the room....shaking your head and muttering (something not permitted in this forum.)
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Posted: 02/24/04 - 22:32 Post subject:
Do you get to fill out a feedback survey at the end of the course? My college required us to do that (The survey was given by the Dept, not the prof.) and the results were anon. I think that kept a lot of my profs in check.
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elkid
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Posted: 02/24/04 - 23:03 Post subject:
We do get evaluations, but they're useless - no room to write anything (you just fill in circles).
I can't complain to the department head. HE IS the department head.
I would've just walked out, but since his midterm and final are based solely on his lecture (we have no book) I was afraid to miss something that might be on one of the tests.
No comment to my comment, Mikey. No response to my "are you insane?" question, either. grrrrr.
A few students came up after the class to say they had thought the same thing. I was like thanks for voicing that opinion in class where it would have some impact. I'm pretty far left myself, but this just had me  +  + 
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jrjo
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 10:36 Post subject:
Go to the Dean of the college... I've done it myself on a bad prof.
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coachmarkos
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 10:39 Post subject:
I remember we had a freshman comp teacher who was extremely political and used about half of his lectures to campaign for Mike Dukakis.
He was largely ignored. By the entire class.
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Running Brewer
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 10:47 Post subject:
| coachmarkos wrote: | I remember we had a freshman comp teacher who was extremely political and used about half of his lectures to campaign for Mike Dukakis.
He was largely ignored. By the entire class. |
So was dukakis by most of the nation! 
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 12:14 Post subject:
Finish the class, and then go to the Dean and comment that personal agenda should not be in the class material. You are paying for an education in your field, and for appropriate material to that end, not for this stuff. Tie it to the money 
Probably a PETA member....not that there is anything wrong with that
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 12:48 Post subject:
bring a big sloppy hamburger to class and eat it during his next diatribe
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 12:50 Post subject:
| BamBam wrote: | | bring a big sloppy hamburger to class and eat it during his next diatribe |
while wearing a mink coat.
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HYPERASHEL
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 14:05 Post subject:
| pokychick wrote: | | BamBam wrote: | | bring a big sloppy hamburger to class and eat it during his next diatribe |
while wearing a mink coat. |
while browsing thru a make up catalog
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Posted: 02/25/04 - 18:08 Post subject:
You are suprised that teachers lean to the left?
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