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runaroundsue
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 Posted: 01/16/05 - 11:25 Post subject:
| AlaninTX wrote: | | Somewhere along the way these things became more like coronations. That is what concerns me the greatest. It disturbs me that we do this in a democracy. |
George Washington is rolling in his grave.
Hubby, and I got into it last night as he brought up how some ignorant (the guy is really young) editor was complaining about the cost.  Obviously hubby took the privately funded stance 
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genie
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Posted: 01/17/05 - 14:51 Post subject:
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well, they "are" spending it.....always a good thing for the economy when they do. It's the "tone" I guess for me and I would have to agree with Genie, it's no doubt always been expensive and excessive, the press is just pounding it a bit much. But it's working for me.  |
That's the argument a lot of my die-hard conservative friends are using--that it is putting money back into the economy. You have to hire people to work for the caterers, the bartenders, the hotel staff, etc......so in that sense, it is a good thing. But then again, I shake my head every time one of my friends spends $40K on a wedding reception too. It's hard to find a middle ground on an issue like this. I'm no bleeding heart but I do think the money, or at least a decent part of it, "could" theoretically be spent feeding OUR country's hungry, building better schools in underserved areas, etc.....but like I said, it's not my place to tell Richie Rich how to piss away his money. I'm with you, CB....I'd like to think I would be a little more responsible if I were that rich, but I don't want people judging me on my actions either. I was relieved to hear that WE aren't paying for this though. I have enough issues on how my taxes are being pissed away.
I think I am going to start another thread about the foreign aid thing though--I'd really like to hear how people feel about that.
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Gogirlgo
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Posted: 01/17/05 - 19:59 Post subject:
I have found that when the best argument anyone can come up with for going ahead with a government project is "It will mean jobs," that's a great indication that the program is a bad, bad idea.
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Sahara
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Posted: 01/17/05 - 20:38 Post subject:
The money spent and goods/services provided (a.k.a. donations) lack humility and good taste. Most of the political and entertainment hoohahs lack both - no matter the political leanings. Then again, I prefer simple and elegant celebrations.
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sonnylax
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Posted: 01/17/05 - 21:33 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: | | I have found that when the best argument anyone can come up with for going ahead with a government project is "It will mean jobs," that's a great indication that the program is a bad, bad idea. |
If that is case, then we need to shut down 80% of Washington. My first stop would be at the Dept. of Education.
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Posted: 01/17/05 - 22:20 Post subject:
| sonnylax wrote: |
If that is case, then we need to shut down 80% of Washington. My first stop would be at the Dept. of Education. |
then merge commerce, labor and treasury, to much redunancy
call it the department of economics or something
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copteacher
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Posted: 01/17/05 - 23:15 Post subject:
then sonny we can cut back the amount of federal law enforcement. Have the FBI do it all, eliminate the DEA and ATF, too much redundancy there too.
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phillycat
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Posted: 01/18/05 - 08:48 Post subject:
| rtpd113 wrote: | | then sonny we can cut back the amount of federal law enforcement. Have the FBI do it all, eliminate the DEA and ATF, too much redundancy there too. |
I assume that you are being sarcastic....no?
I think that spending this type of $$$ on a big party when there are so many other places in this country that need help is sad but typical. I don't think that people who have the means, such as those who are contributing to W's party, do enough to help others right here at home. I'm making a generalization obviously, but wouldn't it be great if we lived in a society where "keeping up with the Jones" meant how much charity and volunteer work you did?
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Cappy
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Posted: 01/18/05 - 09:05 Post subject:
40 million dollars seems minuscule when you compare what will be spent producing, playing, protecting, etc. The Super Bowl.
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phillycat
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Posted: 01/18/05 - 09:09 Post subject:
| Cappy wrote: | | 40 million dollars seems minuscule when you compare what will be spent producing, playing, protecting, etc. The Super Bowl. |
There's a whooooole nother ball of wax there! I agree....totally. I think that we spend wayyyyy too much $$$ on pro sports and the entertainment industry...from the Super Bowl to what we pay people to star in blockbuster films.
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Gogirlgo
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Posted: 01/18/05 - 13:49 Post subject:
| rtpd113 wrote: | | then sonny we can cut back the amount of federal law enforcement. Have the FBI do it all, eliminate the DEA and ATF, too much redundancy there too. |
Doesn't it say no sarcasm on the rules of this forum?
It will be interesting to see if the non-donors who plan to turn their backs on W will get into the front row and if so, whether they'll get any camera time.
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Cappy
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Posted: 01/18/05 - 13:51 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: |
Doesn't it say no sarcasm on the rules of this forum?
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I didn't take it that way. I took it as a statement
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copteacher
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Posted: 01/18/05 - 13:53 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: |
Doesn't it say no sarcasm on the rules of this forum?
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I am NOT being sarcastic. That is a point I am making, I think the federal level law enforcement is too large. For example, DEA, ATF and the FBI all do drug investigations.
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copteacher
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Posted: 01/18/05 - 13:54 Post subject:
my "then Sonny" was a continuation of my cuts. I was continuing my thought, since it was another idea, I put it in another thread.
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phillycat
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Posted: 01/18/05 - 13:56 Post subject:
| rtpd113 wrote: |
I am NOT being sarcastic. That is a point I am making, I think the federal level law enforcement is too large. For example, DEA, ATF and the FBI all do drug investigations. |
Sorry....I thought that you were being sarcastic too. My bad.
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