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 Posted: 01/13/05 - 15:11 Post subject:
| cherylpf wrote: |
Even still though, reading about the WWII "war effort" and the sacrifices that were made country wide in the name of patriotism and support of our troops and the war, it would have been considered ostentatious to have a lavish party and drop $10,000, gift or no, on a party dress while the boys were still overseas fighting. Its a very different war, economy, political environment, etc, that we're in right now, however, I wish more of that mentality were present today, just respect. I'm probably reading too much into it all. |
True, but that still happened all the time. People who were super-wealthy weren't derailed from their lavish social lives by any war effort.
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Posted: 01/13/05 - 15:41 Post subject:
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True, but that still happened all the time. People who were super-wealthy weren't derailed from their lavish social lives by any war effort. |
*sigh* you're right. When I read that they picnicked (not sure how to past tense that one) during the civil war battles, it gave me the same kind of feeling: shock and sadness.
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Posted: 01/13/05 - 16:13 Post subject:
When I'm been elected leader of the free world, not once, but twice I'll definitely be wearing a Vera Wang original which would be donated for saying she designed a dress for the President of the United States. She'll also design a dress for the first daughter and DH will probably want an Armani suit.
I'm not going to deny my rich friends and not so rich friends the party they gladly sent me their money to fund.
$40 million includes everything and everybody, including the wages for all those working the events which can soar pretty high pretty quickly. Not to mention the bar tab for a bunch of politicians at the insanely priced open bar rates.
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Gogirlgo
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Posted: 01/13/05 - 16:28 Post subject:
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*sigh* you're right. When I read that they picnicked (not sure how to past tense that one) during the civil war battles, it gave me the same kind of feeling: shock and sadness. |
Ew. When I learned that people like Joe Kennedy Sr. and his friends pretty much brought on the Stock Crash of '29, that's when I realized that the (filthy) rich are different from you and me.
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Posted: 01/13/05 - 16:33 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: |
Ew. When I learned that people like Joe Kennedy Sr. and his friends pretty much brought on the Stock Crash of '29, that's when I realized that the (filthy) rich are different from you and me. |
If you would like to learn more about the Crash of 1929, you should read:
[url=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0395859999/qid=1105648333/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-5082980-4426235?v=glance&s=books]
John Kenneth Galbraith - Crash of 1929[/url]
There are so many parallels to that time in history and the Tech Market crash that started right after 2000. Tech stocks vs Florida real estate, sending popular public figures to jail while the real crooks walked (aka Martha Stewart). Good stuff.
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Posted: 01/13/05 - 19:24 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: |
True, but that still happened all the time. People who were super-wealthy weren't derailed from their lavish social lives by any war effort. |
Absolutely, Go, but it wasn't media-sized as much as it is today, which could be why it seems so much worse. Only the richie-rich, for the most part, knew about this stuff, no? Today anyone who can read or watch TV is beaten over the head with it. I agree with pffff about the respect thing, though. And I would if it was either party. I don't see why a "changing of the guard" party should be any more or less lavish in times like these than a "here we go again" party, to respond to what sue said earlier.
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Posted: 01/14/05 - 17:52 Post subject:
I don't see what the big deal is. Most of the party's are paid for by private citizens. It will take a lot more than 40 million dollars to correct some of the problems in this world. Heck, 40 million is not even half of the NY Yankees yearly payroll.
George Soro's gave 23 million of his money to various 527's. Certainly that money could have gone to better causes
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Posted: 01/14/05 - 18:04 Post subject:
And why does the indignation about diverting funds away from people in our country who need it not extend to foreign aid? Those funds aren't going to help anyone in our country who needs it either.
Not that I disagree about spending this much money on a party.....but if the funds do come from private (read: rich) citizens, then who are we to say what the idle rich do with their money? 
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Posted: 01/14/05 - 20:00 Post subject:
| genie wrote: | And why does the indignation about diverting funds away from people in our country who need it not extend to foreign aid? Those funds aren't going to help anyone in our country who needs it either.
Not that I disagree about spending this much money on a party.....but if the funds do come from private (read: rich) citizens, then who are we to say what the idle rich do with their money? |
They absolutely have the right to do whatever they want with it. I just think it is a waste of money and would hope that if I were every in the position of being filthy rich I would spend it more wisely.
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Posted: 01/14/05 - 20:06 Post subject:
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They absolutely have the right to do whatever they want with it. I just think it is a waste of money and would hope that if I were every in the position of being filthy rich I would spend it more wisely. |
I agree, but this isn't the first time that the wealthy in this country have spent this way, yes.
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Posted: 01/14/05 - 20:24 Post subject:
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I agree, but this isn't the first time that the wealthy in this country have spent this way, yes. |
well, they "are" spending it.....always a good thing for the economy when they do. It's the "tone" I guess for me and I would have to agree with Genie, it's no doubt always been expensive and excessive, the press is just pounding it a bit much. But it's working for me. 
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Posted: 01/15/05 - 21:06 Post subject:
| camelia bedelia wrote: | | I think it is insane. And YES I would still think that if it was Kerry’s inauguration. People are starving here in our very own country and millions upon millions are being spent for a party. I find it all disgusting. |
Definitely. Starving, dying in mudslides, tornados, and these fools need to spend that type of money on an inauguration? No wonder most of the world looks at Americans as idiots. Look how we represent ourselves (or whom "we" have chosen to represent us. I would not like us either.)
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Posted: 01/15/05 - 23:01 Post subject:
Somewhere along the way these things became more like coronations. That is what concerns me the greatest. It disturbs me that we do this in a democracy.
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