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 Posted: 10/05/03 - 02:10 Post subject: marketing - should i stay or should i go...
well i'm considering withdrawing from my marketing course and transferring a credit in its place.
i already have a credit from university that covers marketing 1 and 2 at the college. i'd get out of a month and a half left of uselessness with this prof, and i'd have the option of sitting in on classes next semester if i found that the professor was appealing to me.
i'd have a lot more free time, especially next semester when i'd be out of marketing and economics at the same time (8 less classes a week).
so lets do this right:
firstly - i took up the marketing course for a second point of view on it. i don't particularly like the one i'm getting. i took it for the high mark on my GPA, which i will almost definately get if i see the course through. i took it because i thought it would enhance my education and it certainly isn't. oh and i thought it'd be fun. it's not.
the problem: my time is being wasted and i'm not getting anything out of the course.
my decision is currently riding on the fact that i could get an A and possible awards money. that's it.
the concerns are as follows:
my gpa - i'm almost guaranteed an A in this class. i have the highest mark in the class. if i transfer my credit my university grade point isn't applied, i just get a CR listing instead of a value. my gpa is then based on the rest of my college courses. this sucks because i'm giving up an A that would definately pick up the balance when it came to the harder courses.
awards - bursaries, scholarships, etc. my gpa needs to be high. throwing away an A isn't excellent a brilliant idea. i need to measure what i could qualify for financially at the end of two years.
staying in the class - if i stick around to get my A i'm committed for second semester too. i'm stuck with whatever prof i get and won't be able to do anything about it, and will risk turning 1 month of aggravation into 6 months of aggravation.
the upsides:
i can still learn - i'm registered for a spot in the class next semester. if i choose to sit in on the lectures and learn, i can do that. it won't affect my marks, and if i need to do other things then it's not a problem for me.
choice - i can come and go as i please. i'm not bogged down by random attendance marks or lots of extra reading.
less time wasted - i choose what i do with my time. i'm not forced to be in a classroom where nothing is being accomplished. more time for sleep, studying, working out, etc. at a rate of 4 hours a week this semester, and 8 hours a week next semester (two classes dropped - econo and marketing) - not including the time saved by not staying for lunch or other optional classes that would precede marketing.
thats the skinny.
to sum it up. my time is being wasted, i could drop the class, still get the knowledge, and prevent a lot of frustration. however to do so i sacrifice my GPA mark and possible awards money (when it all came down to it). and that's what i have to decide. and i'm really wavering on what to do.
i could stick it out - but i'm not sure if it's worth the aggravation to stick around for marks, when i could still stick around for education and have a lot less stress. i'm a little paranoid i might be taking the easy way out... but sometimes that's the smart way too.
thoughts?
-blue
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brie k
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Posted: 10/05/03 - 08:19 Post subject:
What grades do you expect to get in your other courses? Is it possible to get higher marks in these other courses if you have more time to study (which you will if you give up Marketing)? I would have a hard time stressing too much over one grade, but it seems that you are concerned about the GPA of the semester. If you know in your heart of hearts that you can give up Marketing and really use that time to excel in the other courses...then do it.
However, were it me, I would not drop the course. Just the principle of "quitting" -- I am not saying that this is YOUR truth mind you, but this is how I would perceive it were it ME. I am in no way saying that you are quitting, and I don't want you to think that, and were you to decide to drop the Marketing course, I would completely support your decision. I do understand the issues you are facing, and I do know that it would be very hard to stick with a course that seems to give you no real benefit other than the A.
I think it is a big decision, and I guess you just have to weigh it out. It sounds like in your heart you want to drop it, but in your mind you really don't because of the effect it can have on your academic career. Grades are important, awards are too, but then so is your mental health. You could just suck it up and take your chances with the next semester, but then who knows who your instructor will be, and it would really suck if you ended up with this twit again.
Good luck in any case.
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Posted: 10/05/03 - 09:12 Post subject:
Do you get a W (withdrawal "grade") on your transcript if you drop?
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Posted: 10/05/03 - 14:23 Post subject:
| MechEngDropout wrote: | | Do you get a W (withdrawal "grade") on your transcript if you drop? |
i'm not completely sure. i have to go see an advisor tomorrow to get the rest of the details.
i have until the 24th to pull out, the understanding is that up until that date you don't get 'punished', it's just after midterms so if people are tanking a course they can drop it without dragging down their grades.
brie k - i feel the same way about 'quitting'. but i've already done the course, i'm taking it a second time. if i'd know this was the situation before classes started i would've just transferred, and that's not exactly quitting either. if it were the first time through i'd just suck it up, but the second time? i suppose that's why its tricky.
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Posted: 10/05/03 - 14:56 Post subject:
Is it a required course to take for your program? If it's not and you feel that the class is a big waste of time and money, why stay? Besides you already have the equivalent transfer credit from college. Having spent that money taking the credits in college, you can make good use of it by transferring the credit so that you can take something else more useful and stimulating. In my case I transferred the credits I obtained from taking 1st year biology concurrently in another college while still in high school. It was a good thing i did b/c the freshman biology courses at my current university are way more difficult and stressful than what I did as an equivalent in the college course and I was able to get ahead and do some of the 2nd year bio courses that were not only more enjoyable but also required program courses. Then and again, if you want a GPA booster and that course is what you want as one then go ahead. It's up to you.
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Posted: 10/05/03 - 15:54 Post subject:
| TimRuns wrote: | | Is it a required course to take for your program? If it's not and you feel that the class is a big waste of time and money, why stay? Besides you already have the equivalent transfer credit from college. Having spent that money taking the credits in college, you can make good use of it by transferring the credit so that you can take something else more useful and stimulating. |
Tim - i don't have the flexibility that i had in university, i can't really pick up other courses because my classes are in a block (ie. the skeddy is set around 6 classes, not just one). but yes, my university credit is the exact equivalent of the required course at the college. it's one of the few they'll transfer without looking at the course syllabus.
primarily it would open up time for me to focus on my Intro to Business class, and my Accounting studies. there isn't much options for picking up classes.
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