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 Posted: 09/21/04 - 08:23 Post subject: horrible accident yesterday
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This accident was a couple miles from where I live. I feel so bad for our volunteer firemen who arrived at the scene and could do nothing to get the kid out although he was apparently dead on impact. The coroner is a friend of mine and was at the scene more than 6 hours. The road was shut down for nearly 9 hours.  A horrific accident indeed. 
Remember me talking yesterday of being scared as my son just got his driving permit? 
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 08:57 Post subject: Re: horrible accident yesterday
| JACKED UP wrote: | http://www.wtvo.com/global/story.asp?s=2324284&ClientType=Printable
This accident was a couple miles from where I live. I feel so bad for our volunteer firemen who arrived at the scene and could do nothing to get the kid out although he was apparently dead on impact. The coroner is a friend of mine and was at the scene more than 6 hours. The road was shut down for nearly 9 hours. A horrific accident indeed.
Remember me talking yesterday of being scared as my son just got his driving permit? |
Nasty accident. Show this to your kid. Ingrain in his head the dangers involved with a driver's license. Hopefully something will stick.
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 08:58 Post subject:
Definitely show it to your kid. Scenes like that don't disappear from memory very easily
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 09:35 Post subject:
I just got this e-mail from my MIL.
| Quote: | Jim and Mel were in a very serious auto accident in London Ontario on Saturday evening. From what we know someone crossed the median
and crashed into them. Jim has a very bad right arm cut, requiring plastic surgery,vertebrae in his neck damaged, sternum punctured and facial cuts. Mel has a broken ankle, being operated on today with pins being inserted, head cut, and a punctured lung and sternum. |
Just give a gentle reminder to your son that riding/driving in a car is the most dangerous thing most of us do each day. ~40,000 people died in automobile accidents every year.
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 09:53 Post subject:
so we're driving last night - kidrock at the wheel on the highway. it was much busier than i'd imagine it would be and he's had limited highway driving.
he was in the "fast" lane doing 65 at a safe following distance from the assclown in the P/U in front of him with silk ficus trees in the back of his truck....
assclown decides to come to a dead stop on the highway -- he pulls off to the left against the median divider with his ass hanging into OUR lane. i guess he he stopped to play with his ficus trees and kidrock nearly clips his back end doing 65 MPH. i truly thought we we about to be involved in an accident thru no fault of our own.
thankfully my kid kept his head and didn't swerve into the right lane too badly to miss this assclown's rearend.
it's not my kid i mistrust, it's precisely this kind of crap that is gonna do me in.
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 09:57 Post subject:
| rolling rock wrote: |
so we're driving last night - kidrock at the wheel on the highway. it was much busier than i'd imagine it would be and he's had limited highway driving.
he was in the "fast" lane doing 65 at a safe following distance from the assclown in the P/U in front of him with silk ficus trees in the back of his truck....
assclown decides to come to a dead stop on the highway -- he pulls off to the left against the median divider with his ass hanging into OUR lane. i guess he he stopped to play with his ficus trees and kidrock nearly clips his back end doing 65 MPH. i truly thought we we about to be involved in an accident thru no fault of our own.
thankfully my kid kept his head and didn't swerve into the right lane too badly to miss this assclown's rearend.
it's not my kid i mistrust, it's precisely this kind of crap that is gonna do me in. |
Wow close. That is also a major concern of mine too. Scary stuff.
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 10:59 Post subject:
| purple hayes wrote: | I just got this e-mail from my MIL.
| Quote: | Jim and Mel were in a very serious auto accident in London Ontario on Saturday evening. From what we know someone crossed the median
and crashed into them. Jim has a very bad right arm cut, requiring plastic surgery,vertebrae in his neck damaged, sternum punctured and facial cuts. Mel has a broken ankle, being operated on today with pins being inserted, head cut, and a punctured lung and sternum. |
Just give a gentle reminder to your son that riding/driving in a car is the most dangerous thing most of us do each day. ~40,000 people died in automobile accidents every year. |
This your brother or sister, PH?
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 11:28 Post subject:
| Laurie Ellen wrote: | | This your brother or sister, PH? |
It's my wife's aunt and uncle.
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 11:30 Post subject:
| purple hayes wrote: | | Laurie Ellen wrote: | | This your brother or sister, PH? |
It's my wife's aunt and uncle. |
I'm sorry! Sounds like recovery's going to be a long road.
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 12:02 Post subject: Re: horrible accident yesterday
| JACKED UP wrote: | http://www.wtvo.com/global/story.asp?s=2324284&ClientType=Printable
This accident was a couple miles from where I live. I feel so bad for our volunteer firemen who arrived at the scene and could do nothing to get the kid out although he was apparently dead on impact. |
Uh, I don't mean to be callous or unfeeling but, well, what about the kid and his family? I think I'd feel more sorrow for them rather than for the volunteers. But, well, if the driver was dead on impact, there was nothing that even needed to be done. I'm a retired professional firefighter and, unfortunately, I've seen this kind of thing plenty of times. It's still horrible. But there must be some kind of defense mechanism that takes over when a situation like this occurs. I can't speak for other firefighters/paramedics, but you just become inured to it after a lot of these kinds of incidents....reminds me of the lyrics, "I've always been crazy, it keeps me from going insane."
| robp wrote: | | Nasty accident. Show this to your kid. Ingrain in his head the dangers involved with a driver's license. Hopefully something will stick. |
Better yet, ask him to imagine what might have been going through the driver's mind when he began to cross the median and saw the truck. Get him to think about that.
Unfortunately, way too many young drivers forget about it. They get used to driving and NOT having collisions. They think that it can't or won't happen to them because they consider themselves good drivers. Yeah, that's what over twenty teen drivers in this area - in the past nine months! - have thought. Why, they were such good drivers, they didn't even have to wear their seatbelts. And only one of those "good drivers" was wearing a seatbelt.
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 12:40 Post subject: Re: horrible accident yesterday
| msparks wrote: | | Uh, I don't mean to be callous or unfeeling but, well, what about the kid and his family? I think I'd feel more sorrow for them rather than for the volunteers. But, well, if the driver was dead on impact, there was nothing that even needed to be done. I'm a retired professional firefighter and, unfortunately, I've seen this kind of thing plenty of times. It's still horrible. But there must be some kind of defense mechanism that takes over when a situation like this occurs. I can't speak for other firefighters/paramedics, but you just become inured to it after a lot of these kinds of incidents....reminds me of the lyrics, "I've always been crazy, it keeps me from going insane." |
As many times as I saw stuff like this, I never got immune to it. It was our departments policy to debrief with CISM, within 24 hours of an incident like this.
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 12:49 Post subject: Re: horrible accident yesterday
| msparks wrote: | | JACKED UP wrote: | http://www.wtvo.com/global/story.asp?s=2324284&ClientType=Printable
This accident was a couple miles from where I live. I feel so bad for our volunteer firemen who arrived at the scene and could do nothing to get the kid out although he was apparently dead on impact. |
Uh, I don't mean to be callous or unfeeling but, well, what about the kid and his family? I think I'd feel more sorrow for them rather than for the volunteers. But, well, if the driver was dead on impact, there was nothing that even needed to be done. I'm a retired professional firefighter and, unfortunately, I've seen this kind of thing plenty of times. It's still horrible. But there must be some kind of defense mechanism that takes over when a situation like this occurs. I can't speak for other firefighters/paramedics, but you just become inured to it after a lot of these kinds of incidents....reminds me of the lyrics, "I've always been crazy, it keeps me from going insane."
| robp wrote: | | Nasty accident. Show this to your kid. Ingrain in his head the dangers involved with a driver's license. Hopefully something will stick. |
Better yet, ask him to imagine what might have been going through the driver's mind when he began to cross the median and saw the truck. Get him to think about that.
Unfortunately, way too many young drivers forget about it. They get used to driving and NOT having collisions. They think that it can't or won't happen to them because they consider themselves good drivers. Yeah, that's what over twenty teen drivers in this area - in the past nine months! - have thought. Why, they were such good drivers, they didn't even have to wear their seatbelts. And only one of those "good drivers" was wearing a seatbelt. |
I assumed everyone would know how badly I felt for the victim and his family. Sometimes the rescue people get forgotten too. I didn't mean for it to sound that way.
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Posted: 09/21/04 - 13:11 Post subject: Re: horrible accident yesterday
| JACKED UP wrote: | | I assumed everyone would know how badly I felt for the victim and his family. Sometimes the rescue people get forgotten too. I didn't mean for it to sound that way. |
Well, yes. I know that I assumed that you felt some sympathy toward the family, considering that you felt sorry for the firefighters. But...
...they signed on for the job and seeing stuff like that is part of it. I didn't intend to give the impression that I became immune to any of it. I didn't. I always felt sorrow for the people affected by tragedy. Inured doesn't mean immune - it means accustomed. And after more than 26 years of service, I'd seen my share of all the bad crap that can be seen.
How 'bout this one: the alarm comes in for you to respond to a vehicular accident, victim trapped. You roll up to the scene and the vehicle is totally involved - on fire. The victim is most certainly dead. But bystanders tell you that he wasn't dead from impact because they heard him screaming. And then you look more closely at the vehicle and you think you recognize it. And then you're certain. And that victim is a close friend from your school days. Yep, that was certainly time for some counseling.
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