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PostPosted: 07/09/06 - 17:46    Post subject: another first marathon thread
so i registered for my first marathon ( Dancing Banana ), from which i'm currently about 6 months out.
i've been a pretty casual runner, with about 10-15 mi/wk at a 5.5-6.0 mph pace. so it's not much, but it's something to build off of.
i keep telling myself not to set a time goal and just finish with little to no walking, but, as a chronic sufferer of delusions of grandeur, i would LOVE to break 5.
i've got a couple different beginner plans i've been looking at, but since i've never trained for anything long like this, i'm having trouble deciding...

should i go with 18 weeks or something longer?

some suggest as few as 3 days/wk running, with supplemental cross-training. is that enough running?

some don't specify mileage (except for one weekly long run) but rather an interval of time. should i be working more on building mileage or will building on that one long run do the trick?

is yoga enough to qualify as cross-training, or should i reserve that for a rest day? or is it too much for a rest day?

should i throw some weight training in there as well or will that put too much strain on my run workouts?

alright, i think that's all i got, thanks a million in advance for any help.
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PostPosted: 07/09/06 - 17:56    Post subject:
Well first I have never done a marathon myself but have coached someone through a few. 3 days a week running is not enough IMO to train for a marathon. Second, yes, add some weight training it will make you a stronger runner, balance out your leg muscles and strengthen your core. Yoga as cross training?? Sure, but still add the weights and maybe even cycling or eliptical. Good luck!
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PostPosted: 07/10/06 - 09:03    Post subject:
Follow a training program. At your level of training, I'd go with Hal Higdon's Novice program. www.halhigdon.com
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PostPosted: 07/11/06 - 21:27    Post subject:
Pug wrote:
Follow a training program. At your level of training, I'd go with Hal Higdon's Novice program. www.halhigdon.com


total agreement. Higdon is a great choice for 1st timer. After completing the first though, fire Hal.
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PostPosted: 07/12/06 - 22:06    Post subject:
hal higdon's is definitely one of my favorites. currently, however, i'm kind of leaning toward this one
http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_4/130.shtml
since i really like that it incorporates speed and strength work in addition to the straight runs. it's pretty intense though as it stands (part of what draws me to it, i must admit,) so as a tradeoff, might it be wise to go with the suggestion they make for shortening the peak long run to 20 instead of 26?

also, how should i work in weight-training? i'm used to a 3-day push/pull/legs split, but it'd be hard to fit that in with all the running.

i want to get the most out of this training as possible so as to not just finish but finish well (relative to my experience level of course), but i'm wary of setting myself way back by pushing too hard and hurting myself in the process...

thanks for the advice!
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PostPosted: 07/14/06 - 00:28    Post subject:
I completed my first marathon about a month ago, I was further along with my running than you when I started.

I chose this regiman because of the 23 miler. I figured that if I could run 23, I could run 26.2, and it worked. http://www.marathontraining.com/

I would say you would have to run a bare minimum of 40 miles per week and complete all of your long runs.

Best of Luck.
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PostPosted: 07/14/06 - 01:30    Post subject:
Agree for most part with all the replies so far.

You have six months till your marathon, rather than being "a pretty casual runner with about 10-15 miles per week" why not start your gradual build up in miles right away.
I'm all for some cross training but for a first marathon the most important thing is miles in your legs or time on your feet.
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PostPosted: 07/18/06 - 19:46    Post subject:
pnutbutranjelly wrote:
hal higdon's is definitely one of my favorites. currently, however, i'm kind of leaning toward this one
http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_4/130.shtml
since i really like that it incorporates speed and strength work in addition to the straight runs. it's pretty intense though as it stands (part of what draws me to it, i must admit,) so as a tradeoff, might it be wise to go with the suggestion they make for shortening the peak long run to 20 instead of 26?

also, how should i work in weight-training? i'm used to a 3-day push/pull/legs split, but it'd be hard to fit that in with all the running.

i want to get the most out of this training as possible so as to not just finish but finish well (relative to my experience level of course), but i'm wary of setting myself way back by pushing too hard and hurting myself in the process...

thanks for the advice!



I've never, ever ran 26 or more in training before a marathon and I never, ever, ever will (unless I'm running a 50k race). I just don't see the point. For your first marathon, why run 26 miles??? what kind of excitement does that leave for race day? For all other marathons why train 26 miles......you've done it before.
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PostPosted: 07/20/06 - 21:15    Post subject:
pnutbutranjelly wrote:
it's pretty intense though as it stands (part of what draws me to it, i must admit,) so as a tradeoff, might it be wise to go with the suggestion they make for shortening the peak long run to 20 instead of 26?
I'm agreeing with Phar and RAS here. A base is crucial in building yourself up physically and mentally for a 'thon. As Phar said, you have the time to build that base, but get started on it and don't waste time.

Like Sue, I don't know of anyone who makes a 26-mile run part of their 'thon training. Better to get two or three 20-milers in (that seems to be about the longest, though I've seen one or two that go with a long of 22), than just a single 26. Come race day, the base you've built plus the adrenaline of the race will take you the final 6.2 miles.
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marathon mistake number 5
marathon mistake #1
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HELP!! Need advice for Marathon training!
Kona Marathon - June 11
Brookings half marathon...(now w/pic)
How I Spent My Brookings Marathon, by Red Foreman
brookings marathon
Blue Nose Marathon Relay Report
Twisted Ankle Marathon Report!
How long for a half marathon? seriously.....
Med City Marathon 2006 Report
MadCity half marathon report
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Game Show Marathon
$75 for a half marathon!!! (now with course pics)
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Atlanta gets a new marathon
1/2 Marathon Forecast...
6/18/06 My First Half Marathon
My First Marathon: (Mayor's Marathon, Anchorage, AK)
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Grandma's Marathon/half-marathon/5K
Started Marathon Training!! --Have questions!!
Half Marathon Pictures : )
Can one train and peak optimally for a 10k and a marathon?
Lance's marathon training
Half Marathon training schedule
Tokyo Marathon, February 18, 2007
marathon typing
Would you run a marathon with Karnazes?
Charity Partner Offering Reduced Registration for Marathon
10k or 1/2 marathon
Marathon by the Sea - 5 miler
NYC HALF-MARATHON 8/27/06
preparation for half marathon
Kona Marathon (long)
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First Marathon
Quad Cities Half Marathon
Fox Cities Marathon
pre-training for marathon training
Akron Marathon Relay Report
Chicago Half Marathon Race Report
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Is Half Marathon too long?
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Runner's World :: Lance Armstrong vs the Marathon
Towpath Marathon
Chicago Marathon??
Marine Corps Half Marathon - Jax Fla 10/07/06
Akron Towpath 1/2 Marathon Report
Monday Marathon Humor
"Stomp the Grapes" 1/2 Marathon Oct 21 2006
Last Sundays Marathon, 3 Marathoners and a Plant Sale
Amsterdam Marathon : 20km barefoot!!
1st Marathon.... Finished!
Book Review - First Marathons by Gail Kislevitz
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Marathon Commercial
Chicago Marathon
Late Chicago Marathon Report...
1st UltraMarathon need advice please help
ING Georgia Marathon
Next Marathon
The Best Marathoners in 2006
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Catalina Marathon celebrates 30th Edition
New Indy Classic Marathon???
Woman won Cowtown marathon after cancer surgery
Marathon swimmer takes on Amazon
Indy Classic Marathon
Astronaut will run Boston Marathon
$10,000 for crashin the LA Marathon
Astronaut completes her own Boston Marathon
Grandma's Marathon Institutes Drug Policy
Marathon training week before triathlon
US Team Announced for World Champs Marathon
Over 400,000 Ran Marathons in the US Last Year
Extra half mile on Colfax Marathon
Go Red for Women 5K & Minnie Marathon 15K at Disney World
Gordon's widow tells of husband's agony on Comrade marathon
Marathon Training
Olympic Champ Dieter Baumann On October Frankfurt Marathon
The Secrets of the Marathon Gurus Exposed
Update on Indy Classic Marathon
The Minnie Marathon
How to Run Marathon in the Heat
Breastfeeding and marathon training
Training suggestions for my fist marathon
Best marathoning shoes
MP3s banned from marathons
Timberline trail Marathon in Oregon?
Planning Half marathon
Suggestions for half and full marathon training
4 Feet Running: Ep. 18 -- Philly Marathon Part 1
Half marathon pacing
Dangerous Marathon... concentration until the last meter
3 Guys Have Done All 34 Honolulu Marathons
The best marathon city?
First Marathon Experience
Thoughts: Half or full marathon?
marathon training phases
Marathons Prevent Car-Crash Deaths
training suggestions for marathon/multiday ride?
Struggle in Marathon Debut
Good marathon shoe for best performance needed
My first marathon and pregnancy
Safe to take part in a marathon in the first trimester of pregnancy?
Spirit of the Marathon movie
marathon time question
Stomach problems during half marathon
Pause between marathons
Inspirational Movie on Marathons
16 too young to run a Marathon?
Stopping birth control before marathon?
How to: Qualify for the Boston Marathon
Couch to 1/2 marathon?
Havasu Half Marathon - Charities Wanted!!
Costa Rica Marathon
Bank of America Chicago Marathon
Atlanta Half Marathon - Thanksgiving - Pace Groups?
LIVE Coverage of ING New York City Marathon- UniversalSports
Charity place up for grabs for London Marathon 2009
Marathon Training Schedule
Myrtle Beach Marathon question
Ipods allowed in marathons?
Advice for 19 YO New Runner Training for Half Marathon
I'm worried about my marathon training
Bob Potts Heritage Rail Trail Marathon
Spring Marathon for First Timers
marathon training advice needed for older runners
Fast Spring Marathon
Marathon Coverage- Online & Television
Country Music Marathon '09 - anybody running it?
Rotterdam Marathon- LIVE on UniversalSports.com
The toughest 1/2 marathon...The Race To Robie Creek
Would you do this marathon?
Half/Full Marathon Training plan
UNIVERSAL SPORTS broadcasts the Boston Marathon LIVE (4/20)
LIVE Coverage of the FLORA London Marathon (US & Canada)
Overheating in marathon
shaving off my mile pace for a 1/2 marathon
Comrades Marathon - HELP!!
Those Lazy Marathon Runners
Am Amazing Act of Kindness at the Boston Marathon
anyone else out there use Marathoner???!
Run The Bear - Marathon & Half Marathon in Big Bear Lake Ca
The Screaming Pumpkin Marathon & Relay 10/30
post-marathon running pain
Philadelphia Marathon
Did you guys go to the Honolulu Marathon in Hawaii?
Race Report: Carlsbad Half Marathon
The Marathon Stick Review
bad if running marathon with not many miles?
Shirt ideas for 40 th birthday marathon
Want to run the Chicago 2010 Marathon?
A BIG steak with chips is what you need before a Marathon?
blind girl desperate to run the marathon
NIKE WOMEN'S MARATHON
Marine Corps Marathon Charity Bibs Available!
Marine Corps Marathon Bibs Available!
Polar Personal Trainer Half Marathon Training Program
Comments and reviews on article "Tips for Pre-Marathon Diet"
Comments and reviews on article "Tips for Pre-Marathon Diet"
Run the London Half Marathon 10.10.10
NYC Marathon - Team Continuum
Royal Parks half marathon
Chennai Marg-Marathon 2010
Looking to Sponsor Marathon Runners
Marine Corps Marathon Bib for Sale
First time runner and potentially first marathon
Altitude/Half Marathon Question
How long do you have to complete ING NYC Half Marathon?
First Trail Marathon
Limassol Marathon
Survey about marathons and heart health
Looking to run in the Bank of America Chicago Marathon 2011?
Columbus half marathon bib needed
Grandma's (Garry Bjorklund) Half Marathon 2011- BIB WANTED
Switching up Pre-Training for Mini Marathon
first marathon
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Runners needed for Charity Brighton 2012 Marathon Team !
Public Awareness of the risks of Marathon Running Study
Running my 1st San Francisco Marathon
Running Beginner to Full-Marathon
Paris 2012 Marathon
CHICAGO MARATHON 2011 - LIVER FOUNDATION
Confessions of a First Time Marathoner
Acupuncture day before marathon
Toronto Urban Warrior. Half Marathon w Obstacles 8 Sept 2012
Dietetics Thesis Seeking Female Marathon Runners
Dietetics Thesis Seeking Female Marathon Runners
Compression Tights For Marathon Running
150 mile bike ride and marathon 12 days later?
Chicago Marathon- Team Make-A-Wish
Marathon Inspirational Story!
Looking for an entry to the 2012 NYC Marathon?
Is it early to sign up for the Baltimore marathon?
San Francisco Marathon tech shirts
Search for a HALF MARATHON by state AND by month now!!!!
A beginner's guide to marathons !
Run the Boston Marathon in 2013!
We have places in the Brighton Marathon!
50 States HALF Marathon Club Valentines Day Special
Inspirational Book About Blind Marathoner (Free...for now)
Interview with Jeff Eggleston - Team USA Marathoner

 




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