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elkid
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 Posted: 11/15/04 - 15:25 Post subject: and then there were 6
Resignations from Bush's cabinet, that is, with Powell throwing in the towel as well. Why do you think everyone's jumping ship?
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Cappy
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Posted: 11/15/04 - 15:30 Post subject:
Demanding work load, little money, just burned out
In Powell's case, I think he may just want to get away from government service, and he has done great service to this country
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Pug
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Posted: 11/15/04 - 15:32 Post subject:
A question I asked someone at work and don't have an answer for:
How common is this for a second term? How often is there a change in the Cabinet during a second term?
And a comment.
At that level of government, few people actually get fired. They "resign". So, I wonder how many of the 6 resigned and how many "resigned".
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megawill
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Posted: 11/15/04 - 15:35 Post subject:
i liked powell's pottery barn rule for engagement...'you break it, you buy it' ... how the hell much is it worth anyway?
i get the feeling powell's dissenting voice wasn't much wanted by the president who far more would rather see things in black and white (like the defense department and its neocon cronies) instead of shades of grey...i'd like to say he'll be missed, but i don't think he has been much of a factor in this administration so it's hard to say that he will indeed be missed...
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megawill
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Posted: 11/15/04 - 15:36 Post subject:
| Pug wrote: | A question I asked someone at work and don't have an answer for:
At that level of government, few people actually get fired. They "resign". |
the euphemism at a former employer for the higher ups was 'leaving the company to pursue other career opportunities.'
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Pug
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Posted: 11/15/04 - 15:43 Post subject:
| megawill wrote: |
the euphemism at a former employer for the higher ups was 'leaving the company to pursue other career opportunities.' |
We have that one, too. There are two similar phrases, even for us lower forms of corporate life. One is used when the person gets fired, the other is when the person just leaves. I don't remember what the other one is right now.
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purple hayes
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Posted: 11/15/04 - 15:45 Post subject: Re: and then there were 6
| elkid wrote: | | Resignations from Bush's cabinet, that is, with Powell throwing in the towel as well. Why do you think everyone's jumping ship? |
I grabbed this from another forum (may or may not be accurate). Seems that it isn't just the Bush adiministration...
| Quote: | Clinton
2 Sec State
3 Sec Treasury
1 AG
3 Sec Defense
1 Sec Interior
2 Sec Agriculture
4 Sec Commerce
2 Sec Labor
1 Sec Health and Human Services
2 Sec HUD
2 Sec Transportation
3 Sec Energy
1 Sec Education
3 Sec Vet Affairs
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30 total, for 14 positions
Reagan
2 Sec State
3 Sec Treasury
3 AG
2 Sec Defense
3 Sec Interior
2 Sec Agriculture
2 Sec Commerce
3 Sec Labor
3 Sec Health and Human Services
1 Sec HUD
3 Sec Transportation
3 Sec Energy
3 Sec Education
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33 Total for 14 positions |
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Pug
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Posted: 11/15/04 - 15:50 Post subject:
I thought that might be the case.
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Posted: 11/15/04 - 16:01 Post subject:
It unnerves me to think about who will replace him.
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megawill
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Posted: 11/15/04 - 16:03 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: | | It unnerves me to think about who will replace him. |
it sounds like condi rice & wolfowitz are top candidates...
i think wolfowitz would have a hard time being confirmed...
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Pug
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Posted: 11/15/04 - 16:06 Post subject:
| megawill wrote: |
it sounds like condi rice & wolfowitz are top candidates...
i think wolfowitz would have a hard time being confirmed... |
I've heard Rice's name pop up quite a bit for State (oddly enough for Defense as well, even Rummy is still there)
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cherylpf
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Posted: 11/15/04 - 16:06 Post subject:
What is good for education in my opinion is that Rod Paige is supposed to announce his resignation. I thought his appointment 4 years ago was weird, he certainly never did HISD any favors.
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Posted: 11/15/04 - 16:41 Post subject:
CP has served his country admirably for many years. He owes no body anything. He is a highly decorated war hero, did an admirable job as SecState, let him make money in the private sector. He earned that and our many thanks.
He hope Condi Rice gets his job. That would be great.
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phillycat
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Posted: 11/15/04 - 16:45 Post subject:
| rtpd113 wrote: | CP has served his country admirably for many years. He owes no body anything. He is a highly decorated war hero, did an admirable job as SecState, let him make money in the private sector. He earned that and our many thanks.
He hope Condi Rice gets his job. That would be great. |
God forbid.
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copteacher
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Posted: 11/15/04 - 17:35 Post subject:
| phillycat wrote: |
God forbid. |
what about.
You better qualify what you mean, I made two statements.
And defend your response please or at least give me reasons why you disagree.
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