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 Posted: 02/09/04 - 17:19 Post subject: [rant] What happened to the days...
...when if you were a prick at school you could expect to get what you deserve???
Here is the story. The principal called me, with Ian in her office. She tried to get Ian to tell me what happened but at the sound of my voice on the phone he burst into tears and could not speak coherently...
Finally I get out of him that another kid and he had to share the same "brush water" at the table. This child was making the water unnecessarily dirty by deliberatly not painting with the paint on his brush...just dipping it in the water.
Ian expressed his dislike. And when Ian took matters into his own hands by going to the sink to get his own water, this child threw his arm in the way and pushed him away from the sink.
So..Ian pinched him. Hard.
Ian has an in-school suspension for asserting himself.
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purple hayes
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 17:27 Post subject:
Teach him to wait until they're both in the bathroom together or out at recess to get his revenge. Doing it in the classroom while the teacher was there wasn't such a good idea.
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 17:29 Post subject:
| purple hayes wrote: | | Teach him to wait until they're both in the bathroom together or out at recess to get his revenge. Doing it in the classroom while the teacher was there wasn't such a good idea. |
Impulse control is a big problem for him, but the principal did say that she never sees Ian get upset like that unless there is a dang good reason. I concur.
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andydp
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 17:31 Post subject:
On the plus side, I think the guy that got Ian's goat learned a lesson. Ian's not afraid of any teacher's presence. Its also very good the principal understands Ian was "coerced" into it.
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omega lambda
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 18:01 Post subject:
<rant on>
I don't know when those days were. When my son was a kidlet, he got in trouble for throwing the second punch. Another boy had been harassing him for days, and one morning he was taunting my son and finally threw a punch at him. My son hit him back, and that's all the supervisor on duty saw. My son got detention (the one who had NEVER been in trouble at school before), and the other kidlet laughed all the way home. I understand that the rule is not to hit anyone at school. But how is it right that the first time offender gets punished, when the known criminal goes free??? Grrrr. It still makes mad. 
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ShannonG
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 18:12 Post subject:
Ah, this is my working life more or less every day. Try to bear in mind that teacher/admin are dealing with two stories and so far you only have Ian's. The other kid probably said something like 'he was bossing me and telling me I couldn't use the water'. Should the other kid have pushed Ian? NO. But if impulse control is an issue (and heaven knows I look after kids where it is a HUGE one) this sort of a consequence may be enough of a shock to a good kid's system that he'll think before retaliating next time.
Parents don't like to hear their kid did wrong (and Ian wasn't the only one who should have been handed a conseqence, from the sounds of things) but they do. I have to handle parents with kid gloves when it comes to discussing negative behavior because they just can't believe their angel would do/say that and somehow it has to be peer pressure/TV/mass media's fault.
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 18:36 Post subject:
| omega lambda wrote: | | But how is it right that the first time offender gets punished, when the known criminal goes free??? |
You know what the Sicilians say...Revenge is a dish best served cold. When I hear that, I always think of Steve Buscemi in Billy Madison..
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 18:50 Post subject:
a day in the life of po po...Sorry it happened Alia.
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 19:03 Post subject:
I can imagine Ian's frustration! He really tried to fix the problem!! He was getting his own water after all. One of those moments over which parents have no control and can't really help except to acknowledge the effort and the misdeed (of both parties).
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 19:53 Post subject:
| rtpd113 wrote: | | a day in the life of po po...Sorry it happened Alia. |
Kindergarten Cop?
It's not a tumah!
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 20:21 Post subject:
| ShannonG wrote: | Ah, this is my working life more or less every day. Try to bear in mind that teacher/admin are dealing with two stories and so far you only have Ian's. The other kid probably said something like 'he was bossing me and telling me I couldn't use the water'. Should the other kid have pushed Ian? NO. But if impulse control is an issue (and heaven knows I look after kids where it is a HUGE one) this sort of a consequence may be enough of a shock to a good kid's system that he'll think before retaliating next time.
Parents don't like to hear their kid did wrong (and Ian wasn't the only one who should have been handed a conseqence, from the sounds of things) but they do. I have to handle parents with kid gloves when it comes to discussing negative behavior because they just can't believe their angel would do/say that and somehow it has to be peer pressure/TV/mass media's fault. |
Oh, no we talked about how that wasn't the best way to go about it. Next time he is to make enough noise to get the teacher involved.
and pinch the kid later... 
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Posted: 02/09/04 - 21:51 Post subject:
Sorry MW, for you and for Ian. I'm not so sorry for dirty water boy.
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