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purple hayes
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 Posted: 01/18/05 - 14:12 Post subject:
I'd have to be a electricity-less, hermit, gardening vegan to make it down to the 4 acres / 1 planet mark. 
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copteacher
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Posted: 01/18/05 - 14:16 Post subject:
seems quite extreme doesn't it.
So if we went more Vegan, wouldn't more farms have to be created to "feed" the demand, which in turn would use more fertilizers....round and round and round.
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cherylpf
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Posted: 01/18/05 - 14:20 Post subject:
| rtpd113 wrote: | seems quite extreme doesn't it.
So if we went more Vegan, wouldn't more farms have to be created to "feed" the demand, which in turn would use more fertilizers....round and round and round. |
I have read that cattle feed far less people per acre used to raise them by a long shot than any crop. Currently a lot of beef is imported from South America where cattle are being raised in pastures that were formerly forests. I think that is what that figure is trying to account for.
that said, I still eat beef
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phillycat
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Posted: 01/18/05 - 14:23 Post subject:
| cherylpf wrote: |
I have read that cattle feed far less people per acre used to raise them by a long shot than any crop. Currently a lot of beef is imported from South America where cattle are being raised in pastures that were formerly forests. I think that is what that figure is trying to account for.
that said, I still eat beef |
I have heard the same regarding beef. I know that buying fruits and veggies locally really makes a big difference too.
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robp
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Posted: 01/18/05 - 14:34 Post subject:
food - 4.9
mobility - 2.2
shelter - 4.4
goods/services - 4.4
16 total
They don't take into account that despite eating a lot of meat well over half of what they assume is beef is actually venison or fish. So they can bite me! 
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Gogirlgo
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Posted: 01/18/05 - 16:22 Post subject:
Is there a way to make venison less gamey?
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robp
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Posted: 01/18/05 - 16:27 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: | | Is there a way to make venison less gamey? |
Occasionally if I'm sharing them with non-game eaters I'll marinade them in Italian salad dressing for a couple of hours. We made them on the grill in Canada one year after marinading them and had a full blooded Ojibway Indian and his sister swear to us they werent' eating venison - a staple in their diet.
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jrjo
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 11:40 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: | | Same here, Bob. I got slammed for all the driving I do by myself. |
How many acres?
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Ms. Jenn
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 11:48 Post subject:
CATEGORY ACRES
FOOD 6.9
MOBILITY 4.9
SHELTER 6.2
GOODS/SERVICES 10.1
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 28
IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 24 ACRES PER PERSON.
WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 4.5 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE ACRES PER PERSON.
IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 6.3 PLANETS.
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Gogirlgo
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 12:33 Post subject:
| jrjo wrote: |
How many acres? |
21, but when I looked at it closely, I only got a 3 for mobility. My goods & services were high.
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pokychick
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 12:38 Post subject:
CATEGORY ACRES
FOOD 4.4
MOBILITY 1
SHELTER 4.7
GOODS/SERVICES 4
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 14
IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 24 ACRES PER PERSON.
WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 4.5 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE ACRES PER PERSON.
IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 3.2 PLANETS.
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Sahara
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Posted: 01/21/05 - 20:32 Post subject:
FOOD 5.9
MOBILITY 1.5
SHELTER 3.7
GOODS/SERVICES 4.7
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 16
IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 24 ACRES PER PERSON.
WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 4.5 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE ACRES PER PERSON.
My current commute made my mobility pretty low.
What's with the question about whether or not I have about the same/more/less garbage as my neighbors? What if all my neighbors had three garbage cans and used them up every week?
IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 3.6 PLANETS.
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crazyfrog
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Posted: 01/23/05 - 00:28 Post subject:
 for an ecologically educated person, i scored a 23.  wow, now i feel like poo.
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kobyj
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Posted: 01/23/05 - 15:03 Post subject:
FOOD 5.4
MOBILITY 4.2
SHELTER 2.7
GOODS/SERVICES 4.7
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 17
IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 24 ACRES PER PERSON.
WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 4.5 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE ACRES PER PERSON.
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HYPERASHEL
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Posted: 01/24/05 - 17:06 Post subject:
CATEGORY ACRES
FOOD 4.9
MOBILITY 0.2
SHELTER 3.7
GOODS/SERVICES 2.7
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 12
IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 24 ACRES PER PERSON.
WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 4.5 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE ACRES PER PERSON.
IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 2.6 PLANETS.
I eat too much i guess
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