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Gogirlgo
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 Posted: 01/19/05 - 13:39 Post subject: Worldview
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=9&u=/nm/20050119/ts_nm/bush_poll_dc
Global Poll Shows Negative Reaction to Bush Win
Wed Jan 19, 8:26 AM ET Top Stories - Reuters
By Michael Holden
LONDON (Reuters) - A majority of people surveyed in a global poll think the re-election of George Bush (news - web sites) has made the world more dangerous and many view Americans negatively as well, the BBC said Wednesday.
The survey by the British broadcaster showed that only three countries -- India, the Philippines and Poland -- out of 21 polled thought the world was safer following Bush's election win in November.
Bush will be inaugurated for his second term Thursday.
On average across all countries, 58 percent of the 22,000 surveyed said they believed Bush's re-election made the world more dangerous.
"This is quite a grim picture for the U.S.," said Steven Kull, director of the Program on International Policy Attitudes at America's University of Maryland.
The survey found that 56 percent of Americans thought Bush's win was good for the world with 39 percent disagreeing.
Traditional U.S. allies in western Europe, such as Britain (64 percent), France (75 percent), and Germany (77 percent), were among the most negative about Bush's re-election.
A majority in Italy (54 percent) and Australia (61 percent), which both have troops in Iraq (news - web sites), also thought his win had made the world more dangerous.
Anti-Bush sentiment was strongest in Turkey, with 82 percent thinking his win was bad for peace compared to just 6 percent in support. A large majority in Latin American countries, including 58 percent in close neighbor Mexico, were also negative.
Analysts said the poll had far-reaching implications, suggesting a serious rise in anti-U.S. feeling in general, with 42 percent saying it had made them feel worse about Americans compared to 25 percent who made it think more of them.
IRAQ OPPOSITION
There was also overwhelming opposition to sending troops to Iraq, even among close allies such as Britain.
"Fully one in four British citizens say the Bush re-election has made them more opposed to sending troops to Iraq, resulting in a total of 63 per cent now opposed," said Doug Miller, president of GlobeScan which carried out the poll.
"Our research makes very clear that the re-election of President Bush (news - web sites) has further isolated America from the world."
The survey found that 47 percent of those questioned now see U.S. influence in the world as largely negative.
"Those saying the U.S. itself is having a clearly negative influence in the world still do not constitute a definitive world-wide majority, suggesting there may be some underlying openness to repairing relations with the U.S.," he said.
The survey was conducted between Nov. 15, 2004 and Jan. 5, 2005.
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 13:52 Post subject:
Global poll...who cares.
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Gogirlgo
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 14:03 Post subject:
Exactly the point.
"Who cares" is why we're in this mess in the first place. "Who cares" is why we're watching the end of this empire. "Who cares" is why gas costs so much, why fossil fuel is nearly nonexistent, why politicians can be racists, why corporations can rip off America, why jobs are farmed out to other countries, why medicines are so much money, and why the left thinks the right is out to lunch.
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 14:39 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: | Exactly the point.
"Who cares" is why we're in this mess in the first place. "Who cares" is why we're watching the end of this empire. "Who cares" is why gas costs so much, why fossil fuel is nearly nonexistent, why politicians can be racists, why corporations can rip off America, why jobs are farmed out to other countries, why medicines are so much money, and why the left thinks the right is out to lunch. |
 you said it.
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 14:41 Post subject:
| rtpd113 wrote: | | Global poll...who cares. |
I think we'll care when lose allies.
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 14:46 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: | Exactly the point.
"Who cares" is why we're in this mess in the first place. "Who cares" is why we're watching the end of this empire. "Who cares" is why gas costs so much, why fossil fuel is nearly nonexistent, why politicians can be racists, why corporations can rip off America, why jobs are farmed out to other countries, why medicines are so much money, and why the left thinks the right is out to lunch. |
What mess are we in and what empire is ending while we watch?
You pay less for gasoline in the U.S. than just about anywhere else. Fossil fuel is not "nearly non-existant" but it is a limited resource and viable alternatives are being developed, albeit slowly.
A politician can be a racist just like you or I could. That doesn't make it right. It is not illegal to be a racist although it is obviously illegal to persecute someone based on their race.
Corporations rip off America but they also provide employment and tax dollars. They aren't they enemy but they do need to have their act cleaned up for them since they obviously can't seem to do it themselves. And it's not all corporations but the dirty few give the rest of corporate America a bad name.
This whole job farming thing is kind of a farce. Yes some jobs have left but the actual number is pretty miniscule compared to the big picture. There are jobs to be had and approximately 95% of the people in this country are gainfully employed.
The country isn't going to hell in a handbasket just because Kerry lost.....
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 14:54 Post subject:
| robp wrote: |
What mess are we in |
Iraq, for one
| Quote: | | and what empire is ending while we watch |
our own?
| Quote: | | You pay less for gasoline in the U.S. than just about anywhere else. Fossil fuel is not "nearly non-existant" but it is a limited resource and viable alternatives are being developed, albeit slowly. |
faster than that I believe, http://runningforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24472&highlight=gas check out esp Alan's posts. My thought is perhaps we should pay more for gas so as to expedite the pursuit of alternative fuels and resources.
| Quote: | | A politician can be a racist just like you or I could. That doesn't make it right. It is not illegal to be a racist although it is obviously illegal to persecute someone based on their race. |
Exactly right. But the reason it still goes on is that it is tolerated, and the reason it is tolerated is apathy. And I belive apathy is what RTPD exhibited by saying "who cares"
| Quote: | Corporations rip off America but they also provide employment and tax dollars. They aren't they enemy but they do need to have their act cleaned up for them since they obviously can't seem to do it themselves. And it's not all corporations but the dirty few give the rest of corporate America a bad name.
This whole job farming thing is kind of a farce. Yes some jobs have left but the actual number is pretty miniscule compared to the big picture. There are jobs to be had and approximately 95% of the people in this country are gainfully employed. |
I know 4 people at 4 separate companies who lost degreed jobs as a result. Maybe I know a large percentage but its real.
| Quote: | | The country isn't going to hell in a handbasket just because Kerry lost..... |
I don't know, we're definitely heading in the wrong direction, with no sign of turning on Bush's watch.
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 15:43 Post subject:
at least the US has balls enough to back up their words. Instead of having an ineffectual UN who passes resolutions, the US says what they mean and mean what they say.
We give foreign aid and people say we don't give enough.
We have protected the free world with millions of our own in dead and wounded for the last 100 years and we get no thanks.
We are the most generous, forgiving, free and open nation in the world. Everyone wants to come here yet not too many people leave.
I do not seeing people beating down the door to go to any country in Africa or the Middle East.
If some people in the world don't like the US, W or me, I don't care. I bet though as soon as there is a problem somewhere in the world, the US will be right there, and I will be right behind the people who go solve the problems.
That is why I don't care what people think.
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 15:46 Post subject:
| rtpd113 wrote: | at least the US has balls enough to back up their words. Instead of having an ineffectual UN who passes resolutions, the US says what they mean and mean what they say.
We give foreign aid and people say we don't give enough.
We have protected the free world with millions of our own in dead and wounded for the last 100 years and we get no thanks.
We are the most generous, forgiving, free and open nation in the world. Everyone wants to come here yet not too many people leave.
I do not seeing people beating down the door to go to any country in Africa or the Middle East.
If some people in the world don't like the US, W or me, I don't care. I bet though as soon as there is a problem somewhere in the world, the US will be right there, and I will be right behind the people who go solve the problems.
That is why I don't care what people think. |
Hoorah!
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 15:49 Post subject:
I'm going to side with the po-po. How informed do you think the poll participants really are? Sure, it's an opinion poll... they're entitled to whatever they want to think. But the way people in other countries think should have no influence on how we elect a leader. We need to do what is best for our country, given ALL of the issues. So really... who cares what [probably] uninformed people in another country think?
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 15:50 Post subject:
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I think we'll care when lose allies. |
we won't lose allies, the allies will lose us. They can't do it alone.
It will all work out believe me. If there is a real big problem, politics will be pushed aside for the greater good
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 15:50 Post subject:
Amen bro.
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 15:51 Post subject:
| rtpd113 wrote: | at least the US has balls enough to back up their words. Instead of having an ineffectual UN who passes resolutions, the US says what they mean and mean what they say.
We give foreign aid and people say we don't give enough.
We have protected the free world with millions of our own in dead and wounded for the last 100 years and we get no thanks.
We are the most generous, forgiving, free and open nation in the world. Everyone wants to come here yet not too many people leave.
I do not seeing people beating down the door to go to any country in Africa or the Middle East.
If some people in the world don't like the US, W or me, I don't care. I bet though as soon as there is a problem somewhere in the world, the US will be right there, and I will be right behind the people who go solve the problems.
That is why I don't care what people think. |
I still think Ignorance and Arogance is bad foreign policy. And I think adding "Balls" (ego or rampant mad cowboy disease) does not make that policy any better.
As far as protecting the world. I think the Iraqi citizens could have done without some of our protection. How many dead now?
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 15:53 Post subject:
| Wicked Flea wrote: |
I still think Ignorance and Arogance is bad foreign policy. And I think adding "Balls" (ego or rampant mad cowboy disease) does not make that policy any better.
As far as protecting the world. I think the Iraqi citizens could have done without some of our protection. How many dead now? |
and I think Ignorance to problems is very bad. We may go it alone but at least we go.
We dont feel good about ourselves by jumping up and down at the UN we put our words into action. Some of the biggest mouths in the UN do the least for the world
And it is a lot of Iraqis killing Iraqis too. That place will be a killing field if we just pack up and leave, then people will criticize us for leaving.
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Posted: 01/19/05 - 15:55 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: | Exactly the point.
"Who cares" is why we're in this mess in the first place. "Who cares" is why we're watching the end of this empire. "Who cares" is why gas costs so much, why fossil fuel is nearly nonexistent, why politicians can be racists, why corporations can rip off America, why jobs are farmed out to other countries, why medicines are so much money, and why the left thinks the right is out to lunch. |
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