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PostPosted: 09/19/04 - 21:26    Post subject: Winter running?
Hi, my first post. My name is Tom. I live in the Chicago area. I have been running alot this summer and have come to depend on running as my release of frustrations and my source for mental release. I am worried that come winter, it will be too cold or icy for me to run. Any suggestions on running in the winter? I belong to Bally Total Fitness and have used their indoor track several times, but find it quite discouraging. Running outside is the best for me. What is your opinion and suggestion on running in the winter? Is the cold air bad for your lungs? Thanks!!!

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PostPosted: 09/20/04 - 06:05    Post subject:
Welcome to the forums

When I ran in the winter (Philadelphia area) I ran in all sorts of weather. As long as you are layered pretty well, you should be fine.
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PostPosted: 09/20/04 - 09:12    Post subject: Re: Winter running?
TGB9 wrote:
Hi, my first post. My name is Tom. I live in the Chicago area. I have been running alot this summer and have come to depend on running as my release of frustrations and my source for mental release. I am worried that come winter, it will be too cold or icy for me to run. Any suggestions on running in the winter? I belong to Bally Total Fitness and have used their indoor track several times, but find it quite discouraging. Running outside is the best for me. What is your opinion and suggestion on running in the winter? Is the cold air bad for your lungs? Thanks!!!

Keep Running! Very Happy


Welcome to the boards Tom!

I live in South Dakota, so we probably have similiar outdoor conditions in the winter, your weather is probably even nicer depending on how close you live to the lake.

The main hazard with running outside is the snow and sleet and slippery conditions. I use my treadmill alot in the winter (but not as much as I should).

If you run in the early morning....the cold can be bothersome then too, before sunrise, however if you run after the sun is up...it's not too bad if it isn't slippery out.

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: 09/20/04 - 09:26    Post subject:
Send a pm to jrjo about this. He lives in northern Minnesota and gave me some helpful info about winter gear for running. I didn't have a very good running winter last year, so i don't have the tips or the best advise, though i might still have his pm in my inbox.
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PostPosted: 09/22/04 - 09:52    Post subject:
I'll try to keep this from being too longwinded. When winter hits, you'll likely become a weather channel junkie..as if you're not now Wink But anyway, as mentioned, it's all about layering appropriately for the temp. While it's above freezing, one layer is all that's really needed. A long-sleeve moisture management type shirt (coolmax, under armour, drylete, etc) and a pair of tights will have you good to go. Add a cap and light gloves which you can take off and replace as you heat up or cool off during the run.
When the temps drop below freezing, that's where I like to add a jacket shell. Again some kind wind jacket that keeps the cool air off you but is also vented to let out the dampness. This is probably good enough down to about 20f degrees along with the above mentioned gear.
From 10-20f degrees, adding wind pants over the tights will keep the legs warm too and bumping up to a stocking cap and thicker gloves or mitts is a good idea.
In the 0-10f degree range, I'll add another inside layer on top, something like a fleece vest between the coolmax and the wind jacket. I'll also wear a neoprene facemask and earmuffs at this point. You asked about cold air being bad for the lungs, and don't buy in to that. If that were the case, every Kenmore freezer would come with warning labels to hold your breath when you opened it. Reality is, in the real cold temps the air is very dry. All the moisture has been froze and dropped right out of it so that "burn" in the lungs is really from dry air. And what the neoprene mask does, aside from keeping the wind off your cheeks and chin is to hold just enough of the moisture as you exhale that as you inhale you can get some of that dampness back in your lungs and keep that burn away. Believe you me, this works great.
Dipping below zero is when you pull out all the stops. Triple layers on top, triple layers on bottom, facemask, earmuffs, thick cap, gloves and mitts.
And as for shoes, I've not had a problem in 25-years with just running in regular socks and wearing the same old trainers. I did have a winter or two where I got myself some trail shoes and they actually did help get through some of the snowier runs, but really, any kind of shoe is going to be fine. Just slow down if there is ice and don't extend your stride so far to cause yourself to do the splits if you land on an ice patch. Try to keep your footfall right below your knee when the conditions are really bad.

A couple other winter hints. One is to time your run if you can for the warmest part of the day. I do this by running at noon-time. First off, this gives you the best temps of the day, which in our corner of the world is going to mean it'll be above zero for all but a handful of days. And secondly, waiting for later in the day, the sun is going to melt some of the ice and slush on the black asphalt enough that the moisture in the air is going to notch up some and keep that "lung burn" from happening. Finally, the other reason to wait until later in the day is if there is some overnight snowfall, by mid-morning, the plows have cleaned things up and you can avoid some of the real messy footing.

But probably the biggest fun of running in the winter is coming here and posting about your 20-below zero temp run and reading the replies of the Hotlantians Surprised Cool
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PostPosted: 10/13/04 - 21:50    Post subject:
There are also these things called yaktrax that you slip on over your shoes. They are little x's of rubber with coils on them. I have heard good things about them though never tried them. Maybe i should, I live in the upper peninsula of michigan.

http://www.yaktrax.com/
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PostPosted: 10/13/04 - 22:12    Post subject:
jrjo wrote:

But probably the biggest fun of running in the winter is coming here and posting about your 20-below zero temp run and reading the replies of the Hotlantians Surprised Cool


im not afraid to admit that i run on an indoor track 75% of the time because im too big of a sissy to go out if its under 55 or so!

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PostPosted: 10/14/04 - 06:13    Post subject:
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im not afraid to admit that i run on an indoor track 75% of the time because im too big of a sissy to go out if its under 55 or so!

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OMG you are a wuss! Least I stay out till it's 30 or so. Wink
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PostPosted: 10/14/04 - 07:33    Post subject:
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im not afraid to admit that i run on an indoor track 75% of the time because im too big of a sissy to go out if its under 55 or so!

Wink


Same here but 40-45 degs for me. Cold air kicks my asthma into high gear unless I'm doing a really slow pace.
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PostPosted: 10/14/04 - 09:03    Post subject:
jrjo's post pretty much sums it all up, but I'd like to add a couple simple points that I find really help me out:

Depending on how cold it gets, you can look into different weights of fleece. I typically find that a regular weight (I think they refer to it as a 100 weight) and a shell will get you to around -10F (for me, at least). But with a 200 weight fleece and shell, I've been out for hour-long runs at -40F with the feet and hands being the coldest thing.

Another key item for winter running is a pair of sunglasses. I've got the Oakley Half-Jackets which allow you to change the lenses in them (other manufacturers have similar items). I've got a lens set for bright days to cut the glare and reflection, and another orange set for hazy, foggy days, or days with a light snowfall.

And if you just can't get out during the day, get a reflective vest and ankle straps. Even those blinking lights on bikes work great. Odds are, you'll be on or near the road if the sidewalks aren't maintained, and you'll want to be as visible as possible.

And just one more thing. In the winter, do NOT go for big long tours! Keep to shorter loops near your home/gym just in case the weather changes. That's one mistake you make only once in your life.....
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PostPosted: 10/14/04 - 10:15    Post subject:
Welcome to the boards, Tom! Very Happy

You've got a lot of great advice here so I won't really add anything else but I just wanted to let you know that I started out as a total winter running wuss. I hated winter and I hated running outside IN the winter even more. But, over the three years I have been running winter has now become one of my favorite times to run! Very Happy

My most favorite run ever: I can remember it was just beginning to snow and we already had snow on the ground from the previous days. I was running in the middle of the road (hardly any traffice that day plus it was early) and it was just me, the earth and the snow there that day. It was a very calm and peaceful run and one I will probably never forget.

Good Luck!
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PostPosted: 10/14/04 - 10:42    Post subject:
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My most favorite run ever: I can remember it was just beginning to snow and we already had snow on the ground from the previous days. I was running in the middle of the road (hardly any traffice that day plus it was early) and it was just me, the earth and the snow there that day. It was a very calm and peaceful run and one I will probably never forget.


I totally agree with you! Being Canadian, you'd think I've grown to love winter -- nope! But running on a calm morning with a gentle snowfall is as close to utopia as I've been. I had such an experience last year one morning on the Rideau Canal, before all the skaters woke up. Beautiful!

Enjoy it while you can!
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PostPosted: 10/14/04 - 15:12    Post subject:
Don't forget the sunscreen in the winter. I use a sunscreen and then also use on cold windy days Vaseline Jelly Cream all over my face.
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PostPosted: 10/15/04 - 12:21    Post subject: Buy a good jacket.
I live in Minneapolis, MN so I have run through the worst of times (-10 with 30 mph winds dropping the windchill down to -40) and the best of times (MN summers are great for runners). With winter running, you MUST HAVE a good outer shell layer.

Layering is obviously the best idea for winter running, but you need a very good outer-shell layer. This will act to shield you from the cutting wind, as well as continue to wick moisture away from your dry-fit inner layers. I would spend at least $100 or more on your outer layer to ensure a quality product. Case in point: my wife ran in a $50 Brooks shell and was always cold even when she had three quality under layers. I recently purchased her an adidas response trail coat for $100 from the adidas website which should do a better job doing the aforementioned items.

Layering should also apply to your hands. I would recommend a thin dry-fit glove layer followed by a mitten shell layer. This will keep the wind from cutting through your gloves to your skin.
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PostPosted: 10/16/04 - 15:07    Post subject:
Welcome. I am relatively new here also and find all of these topics very informative.

I run all year here in Alaska, it is important to layer and have breathable clothes, I also make sure they keep out the wind. The are three things that I am concerned about when I run in the winter. Wind, Ice, Visibility (Cars.)

I do have a limit, I do not run when the temp is below -20°---If I get injured or something it could get dangerous, so let someone know where you are going and when you expect to be back.

Enjoy
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Guide To Buying A Pair Of Running Shoes
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Running for life
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running in the rain
Pain in calves only WHILE running - suggestions?
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Morning Running NOT to Burn Fat
Bunch of kids running distance races in Oregon
I'm throwing away the running shoes...
Both arms go numb when running...
Feet fall asleep while running... terrible pain
Evolution Running and a Running Forums discount
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Running in Florida
Leg pain goes away while running...comes back after
Running Shirt, Slogan Contest!
Swimming and Running
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cyclist/running newb (with a hydration question)
Zensah Running Tights
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Running vs Jogging
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Am I wearing the right running shoe?
How many calories do you eat before running?
Your ideal music for running?
Foods and running question
Running with Asthma problem
Do you use running logs?
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Advice on Trail Running Shoes
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running long vs. running fast
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Visiting NY: good running stores in Manhattan
What is Ideal weight for running?
Winter running: Pants or Tights?
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running and yoga?
thyroid problems and running
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Thoughts on beer and running
what changes did you see when you first began running?
Terrible pressure on knees when running
Returning to running after a year pause
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running is not my thing. marching band is. but you...
Breast Augmentation and running
Any recommended books on running for women?
when to change running shoes
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Your most inspiring moments in running
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Outdoor vs Treadmill running
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Kids' running programs
How safe is running in the dark?
Throw up after running a mile
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best running shoes for a heavyweight?
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Thryoid problems and running
Fast Food and running
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Running in L.A.
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Hydration on summer runnings
Running in the New Jersey
Running for teens
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Articles on running
After a year break, I'm running again
How much benefit by running
The best age to start running?
4 Feet Running: Ep. 18 -- Philly Marathon Part 1
Encouragement when running
Terminology in running
The most hardcore thing in running is?
Rate your running skill
Weird things happening during running
What is your biggest running chalenge?
Running the neighbourhood
Feeling bad with every running?
Easy tired when running
Running songs
Who's your running partner?
best spikeless running shoes
Who is your running role model?
Wearing backpack when running?
Running like a pro
Running on the beach
Modifying shoes for running?
Brooks Adrenaline GTS 7 best running shoes
Walk breaks during running
Running while on antidepressants
Off season running
protein before or after running?
Your running routine
Why did you began running?
Brooks Glycerin 5 running shoes
Wearing goggles when running?
Other sports next to running
Running with electronics?
Did you tried cheap running shoes?
trail running in the rain
Night Running
For employed - Night or early morning running ?
How to breath through the nose only while running
Ever got embarassed on the running
Best temperature for running
Clothes for running
How to wash expencive running shoes?
What weather have to be for your running mood?
Cycling as cross training for running?
Asphalt or Concrete for running
Suit for Winter running
Fall is the best for running
4 Feet Running: Ep.24 - Is there a doctor in the house?
Running Camp for kids
Advices on breathing when running
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Any oil or cream protection for legs during winter running?
OrthoticsGood running bra
Running apparel / clothing
Running nerds
Swimming and running in what portion
Sunlenses or sunglasses for running
Uncomfortable new running shoes
Hip replacement and running
Miles running or miles cycling
Headphones for running?
Hardcore running?
Running parallel with cycling?
Losing motivation and losing sight of my running goal
Cycling or Running - Which is harder?
Running when you're sick?
Cycling and running in what dose?
Running and sickness problem
What is the frequency that your running naturally slows down?
Replacing running shoes after a month?
After a long absence I'm back to running
Where to find a resource for local running tracks?
Your Favorite Running Shoes?
Thinking about making a running blog
Numb foot when running
Running on the beach is more difficult?
My first pair of running shoes!
Keeping hair off face while running
Contact lenses or glasses for running?
Which watch for running timing?
How many years of running experience you have?
Change training from running to cycling
who makes the ugliest looking running shoes?
Swimming vs Running - What gives you bigger excitement?
Watch for Running?
Cold weather and running schedule
maximum humidity for running
The right shoes for running
Running vs cycling training
Increase running mileage
Running nude
Where to buy a running skirt?
Running Software info
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Biggest sacrifice for running ?
Your activities before you started running?
Running pace concept
Sneezing after a running on the rain
Good Trail Running Shoes
Winter running training
Where to buy good running shoes in NYC?
starting with running again after hysterectomy
Are you dedicated to running?
Have idea of starting a running club
The best running routine
Running on a high altitude
My biggest sacrifice for running is...?
Running shoe recommendations for flat footed
Running aches and pains
Running apparel for ladies
Running vs Cycling thoughts
Running Camps
Running gear info
Running shoes for sand
Is it possible to get lactation from running?
Worst and Best running shoes
Ideal Running Shoe Shape
Running in High Heels?
Running shoes problem
Running with fibromyalgia?
Timing devices for running
styles of shorts for running
Flat foot and running shoe selection
Just lost a toenail by long distance running
menstrual like cramps while running
what was your worst running shoe ever?
Cross-training with running help swimming?
Running shoe average lifetime
Sweat Stains ruining my running shirts!!
Kicking myself in the ankle with new running shoes
Always have multiple pairs of running shoes
Which one is the best online running shoe store?
Resuming Running After C-Section
Losing toenails with wrong running shoes
Washing running shoes?
What running shoes during hot time?
Competitive Endurance Running Research Opportunity
new to running for basic training
Running Faster
Taking up running for the first time
El Guapo Running Club in Jacksonville, FL
Running with your dogs
Does your running have a purpose?
Running City Tours in Buenos Aires, Argentina
Back to running... a few questions
Looking for running partner in Jacksonville, FL
Heart Rate While Running
Question - Running 4 Months, Hobbling For 3 Months...
Running after abdominal hysterectomy
Balanced running programme
swimming vs running vs cycling
Help with Shin and Calf Burning While Running
Need a Running Partner
Anyone running The Bourbon Chase?
Chicago Running
Running City Tours in Buenos Aires, Argentina
Does cycling help running?
Personalized Running shirts
Heart rate increases rapidly while running then decelerates
HELP new to running and need to for basic!!!!
Dressing for Cold Weather Winter Running
Novel on Running-"Runner's Honor"
How can I make a good running plan?
Running up/down hill
The surface for running
Running for my Father - Inspirational Film on DVD
Getting back into running - problems with ITB?
Feet pain when running
Country Music Marathon '09 - anybody running it?
problems with running stride
Bodyweight Exercises while running?
How to stud your shoes for winter running
Triathlon running forum
What kind of running log is good for me?
New Balance Running Shoes
Need Some advice on Running.
Hello, I'm new (new to running)
Running in Hiking Shoes
Switched to running and muscle/weight concerns
Improve Baserunning speed
New to this site and New to running!!
What are some good running shoes for a treadmill?
Classics for running? Also other recommendations?
Pain in left leg after running
Supplements for running
running when its hot and humid
Help Please - Evening running so much better!
something for running on those hot summer days
Heart rate while running
Looking to start running need REALLY high tops
350 lbs man needs running advice
Getting Back into Running
Has anyone heard of Asics Kinsei Shogun running shoes?
Running and a metallic taste in my mouth
Overweight and want to start running.
Free Newton running clinic in NYC on 10/30
Bought Exact Same Running Shoes, New Ones Hurt Feet
Need information on running with 5 yr old girl