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PostPosted: 09/03/04 - 17:50    Post subject: What kind of cowards kill kids?
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f'ing coward terrorists in Russia.
I am sorry, not that killing adults is better but killing an innocent kid.

I draw the line there. Come on you muslim extremist terrorist cowards, come duke it out with me man to man, no weapons.

I hope Putin sends a message. First two planes bombing, then a train station then a school.

It is tragic what happened there.
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PostPosted: 09/03/04 - 18:04    Post subject:
What is even more tragic is that the US and World media won't call a spade, a spade in this case. They are Islamic Terrorists!
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PostPosted: 09/03/04 - 18:13    Post subject:
sonnylax wrote:
What is even more tragic is that the US and World media won't call a spade, a spade in this case. They are Islamic Terrorists!


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PostPosted: 09/03/04 - 18:14    Post subject: Re: What kind of cowards kill kids?
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f'ing coward terrorists in Russia.
I am sorry, not that killing adults is better but killing an innocent kid.

I draw the line there. Come on you muslim extremist terrorist cowards, come duke it out with me man to man, no weapons.

I hope Putin sends a message. First two planes bombing, then a train station then a school.

It is tragic what happened there.


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PostPosted: 09/03/04 - 18:15    Post subject:
This story just broke my heart. It is just awful, truly awful.
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PostPosted: 09/03/04 - 21:57    Post subject: Re: What kind of cowards kill kids?
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f'ing coward terrorists in Russia.
I am sorry, not that killing adults is better but killing an innocent kid.

I draw the line there. Come on you muslim extremist terrorist cowards, come duke it out with me man to man, no weapons.

I hope Putin sends a message. First two planes bombing, then a train station then a school.

It is tragic what happened there.


I think you can add the AMERICANS to that group of cowards. Or do you think that all those Iraqi children don't count? They didn't do anything and yet we find it ok to kill them!

The rebels are trying to get their freedom. They have tried just about everything and now find the only way to get noticed is to take drastic measures. Extremely drastic and unfortunetly, people/children are being killed.

They at least have a reason. FREEDOM. Our reason is WMD? Oppression of the Iraqi people? When do they stand up for themselves? According to our fearless leader, "When they are sure the oppressor will not return." When the heck will that be? At lest the Chetchans (sp) are fighting for a real cause, their freedom.

What is happening is wrong, but right now, Americans are not the ones that should be preaching that.

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PostPosted: 09/03/04 - 22:43    Post subject: Re: What kind of cowards kill kids?
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rtpd113 wrote:
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f'ing coward terrorists in Russia.
I am sorry, not that killing adults is better but killing an innocent kid.

I draw the line there. Come on you muslim extremist terrorist cowards, come duke it out with me man to man, no weapons.

I hope Putin sends a message. First two planes bombing, then a train station then a school.

It is tragic what happened there.


I think you can add the AMERICANS to that group of cowards. Or do you think that all those Iraqi children don't count? They didn't do anything and yet we find it ok to kill them!

The rebels are trying to get their freedom. They have tried just about everything and now find the only way to get noticed is to take drastic measures. Extremely drastic and unfortunetly, people/children are being killed.

They at least have a reason. FREEDOM. Our reason is WMD? Oppression of the Iraqi people? When do they stand up for themselves? According to our fearless leader, "When they are sure the oppressor will not return." When the heck will that be? At lest the Chetchans (sp) are fighting for a real cause, their freedom.

What is happening is wrong, but right now, Americans are not the ones that should be preaching that.

Sheldon


Um, when is the last time Americans went into a school and held innocent children hostage? As a nation--never.

And yes, Americans are the ones that should be preaching that. We fought for our freedom once, too, but we did it without taking over a school filled with non-combatants.

If these people want their freedom---attacking schoolchildren IS NEVER JUSTIFIED. The adults keep them oppressed, then the adults should fight the war.

Bullies beat up on the innocent that can't defend themselves. Bullies are cowards who don't have the guts to fight a "real" war.

These terrorists fight without rules of honor. At least America tries to follow rules of honorable combat. (and yes, there is such a thing)

I'm sorry but killing children is never justified as a method to achieve your means. It is wrong.

If you have to resort to killing children and non-combatants, perhaps your goal isn't so worthy or honorable.

I would rather be oppressed than take the life of innocent children just for my freedom. That freedom would always reek of blood and it wouldn't be a freedom worth having. Sometimes the price is just too high.

There are people oppressed all over this world and they do not resort to killing children.

Look at Martin Luther King Jr. He fought oppression--never once killing a single child. Look at Abraham Lincoln--he fought slavery--never once killing children.

There are examples like that all over the world.

These people are evil there is no justifying their actions. period.
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PostPosted: 09/03/04 - 22:47    Post subject:
Also, these terrorists are essentially saying their lives are worth far more than the hostages they killed.

Who are they to decide that their lives are worth more? Who are they to decide who lives and dies?

They are cold blooded murderers and no more.



(This is not a debate about America and Iraq--this is about the actions of the terrorists in that school)
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PostPosted: 09/04/04 - 03:22    Post subject:
People who want to burn in hell.
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PostPosted: 09/04/04 - 05:22    Post subject:
Well said Airehead.

Killing innocent children is never going to resolve anything


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PostPosted: 09/04/04 - 06:00    Post subject:
I agree the method is wrong, the statement is wrong, and the whole damn world has gone to hell, but we don't live in the same times as MLK or Abe. We live in todays world with crazy lunic freaks who believe that blowng up buildings (Even Americans are doing it to Americans) is the acceptable norm.

Those rebels did not think that their own lives where more meaningful than those of the children. They wore vests of bombs, willing to blow themsleves up and willing to die for the cause. Still wrong, but they were willing to die for what they believe.

And don't even for one second think that thousands of chilren are not dieing in Iraq under the same false pretence as freedom as they are in Russia. Are we no less cowardly because our death comes from a 5000lb bomb dropped from the sky at night? Until America pulls its troups from Iraq and stops calling the deaths of Iraqi children and American children (Our boys are just that, boys) "collateral damage", we are no different than they are. If you think we are, then you need to do some soul searching to find your real beliefs.

We fight the Iraq war with the pretence of freedom. True, we don't kill the children by taking them in a school and shooting them. No, we do it even more cowardly by dropping bombs from the sky. We don't even bother to see the face of the person we are killing. Your next arguement is going to be that our bombs only kill the bad guys and that they are "smart". Give it up.

If you think for one second that what those rebels did is bad, and I agree, it is horrid, then you must also agree that the attacking and killing of innocent children in Iraq is just as bad. We, as a whole have no right to judge what others do to find freedom. Our methods may have been different, but the outcome is the same. DEATH!

As a final note; do you have any idea what those people are even fighting for? Do you know the attrocities that they have been fighting for years and years?

Heaven help you if you really see no difference in the way a child dies.

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PostPosted: 09/04/04 - 06:42    Post subject:
and the same people that want the UN to intervene in crap stand back and say oh these is tragic.
They think by doing this to the Russians, they will get their way.
The Russians have a history of allowing stuff to happen to their people in order to gain victory.
These chechen muslim rebel should now get even less sympathy or leeway. I dont care what they are fighting for. Killing kids just does not do it
And to compare this to Iraq is absurd. The U.S. may have killed children but they were clearly accidental and unintended targes.
Shame on you for making that connection.
The Americans of one of the most honored military traditions in the world and are known for their absolute kindness and fairness. Sure there examples in history. But overall the US Military is not only the strongest but most sincere.
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PostPosted: 09/04/04 - 06:46    Post subject:
http://www.coolrunning.com/forums/Forum1/HTML/058407.shtml

It looks like I'm not the only one who thinks this way.

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PostPosted: 09/04/04 - 06:48    Post subject:
that is what open debate is about. You are entitled to your opinion that is fine. But I stand by my statement.
If I were in Chechyna I would be real nervous right now. The Russians wont be to kind if they go in there.
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PostPosted: 09/04/04 - 06:54    Post subject:
Taking hostages, and killing innocent people and children is never, ever a means to resolve disputes.
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