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 Posted: 08/23/04 - 10:22 Post subject:
| akern wrote: | | megawill wrote: |
it easy to look bad while trying to run a marathon in 95 degree heat....too bad they couldn't have run very early in the morning or late at night so that we would hav had a better idea who was the olympics' best woman marathoner, instead of who was best able to withstand the elements...
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I was wondering why they couldn't have picked a better time to run as well. Wouldn't the morning have been better than the evening? |
Yeah. In the morning, the roads aren't hot. In the evening, they still retain a lot of the heat from the day.
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 10:33 Post subject:
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would it have been admirable for her to struggle through it? Yes...but she wasn't running to inspire someone...she was running to win a medal...if she struggled through the last couple of miles she had nothing to gain except a great potential for injury or a trip to a hospital bed for severe heat sickness/dehydration....
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Anyone that runs a marathon AT ALL has a great potential for injury and heat sickness/dehydration, regardless of where they finish or if they finish at all. I think it's demeaning to the rest of the field to drop out just because you're not winning, and it belittles the event. The other participants aren't just chopped liver - they are there in the hopes of medaling as well. More than 3 people finished that race - not everyone dropped out because they were looking at finishing out of the medals.
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 10:44 Post subject:
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Please, without Googling it, tell me who came in fourth.
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I don't know her name but it was the Ethopian runner that Deena passed around mile 25.
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 10:44 Post subject:
How many did drop out? You know of her because she was leading, but how many did?
As for when they ran it... Everybody ran the same course int he same conditions. it was just her tough luck she couldn't hang OR had an injury near the end.
She ran the race to win. when she realized she couldn't she DNF'ed. Maybe, just maybe she gave everythig she had and could not continue. The real thing is we just don't know. And, since she is such a private person, we may never know.
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 10:47 Post subject:
| RunsLikeAGirl wrote: | | megawill wrote: |
would it have been admirable for her to struggle through it? Yes...but she wasn't running to inspire someone...she was running to win a medal...if she struggled through the last couple of miles she had nothing to gain except a great potential for injury or a trip to a hospital bed for severe heat sickness/dehydration....
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Anyone that runs a marathon AT ALL has a great potential for injury and heat sickness/dehydration, regardless of where they finish or if they finish at all. I think it's demeaning to the rest of the field to drop out just because you're not winning, and it belittles the event. The other participants aren't just chopped liver - they are there in the hopes of medaling as well. More than 3 people finished that race - not everyone dropped out because they were looking at finishing out of the medals. |
how is it demeaning? she was the one pushing the pace...she could have held back and played it safe and then see what she had left and maybe pull off a medal...but she was going for the gold...
criticize her race strategy, maybe...but looking at her, she was in no shape to continue...I have a hard time laying into her for taking a DNF...most elite marathoners have more than a couple of dnfs to their name...it's just not quite the same as you and me pushing through the wall to finish where even completing the training, participating in, and finishing a marathon is an achievement...this is their livlihood...
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 10:56 Post subject:
btw...no matter what your position, it's great to see something that can get all of us talking about running!!!
~carry on....
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 11:14 Post subject:
| megawill wrote: | btw...no matter what your position, it's great to see something that can get all of us talking about running!!!
~carry on....
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 11:16 Post subject:
Clearly she tried to persist. The folks on the sidelines were encouraging her every step she took walking. She'd start running but clearly something was amiss and she coud not go on. Sorry, I don't buy into the theory that she DNF because she wasn't getting any medal. And, correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this was a whole year of disappointments for Radcliffe. Injuries, illnesses, losses... And as for her form, the bobble-head thing is just her style and I don't think you can guage her ability by watching her from the neck up. Yes, I am disappointed, but like Deena said at the end of the race, "It's important to get to the finish line healthy." My guess is Paula would have NOT gone to the finish line healthy.
But that's just my opinion and I am no expert on anything "running"...
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 11:29 Post subject:
| marathonrnr262 wrote: | How many did drop out? You know of her because she was leading, but how many did?
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16, including Margaret Okayo, who won the 2004 London Marathon.
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 11:53 Post subject:
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 11:59 Post subject:
| Orange Bubble wrote: | | marathonrnr262 wrote: | How many did drop out? You know of her because she was leading, but how many did?
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16, including Margaret Okayo, who won the 2004 London Marathon. |
16 out of what 48. That is pretty high for elites. I'll bet most knew they had no chance and decided that a DNF was the smartest thing they could do.
Who else feels the Ethiopian cheated by having her husband run along side her for part of the thon. NO OUTSIDE ASSISTANCE.
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 12:04 Post subject:
Actually there were 82 women who started. But still, you are talking about 20% of the field not finishing. Given the lay-out of the course and the heat, the total DNFs aren't that surprising.
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 12:10 Post subject:
It makes those that won even more impressive in my book. Everybody has bad days and good, but they really had a tough challange that day.
The mens race is really gonna be exciting. The drama won't be there, but it will be exciting to watch the strategy unfold.
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 12:14 Post subject:
| marathonrnr262 wrote: | | Orange Bubble wrote: | | marathonrnr262 wrote: | How many did drop out? You know of her because she was leading, but how many did?
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16, including Margaret Okayo, who won the 2004 London Marathon. |
16 out of what 48. That is pretty high for elites. I'll bet most knew they had no chance and decided that a DNF was the smartest thing they could do.
Who else feels the Ethiopian cheated by having her husband run along side her for part of the thon. NO OUTSIDE ASSISTANCE.
Sheldon |
I had mixed views on this. At first I thought it was kinda neat (when he was waaayy off to the side. When he started to run in the same street I thought that was maybe too close.
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Posted: 08/23/04 - 12:21 Post subject:
Huh. Well, I don't know. Still sounds to me like she hit the wall, which has happened to lesser athletes that still pulled out a finish. She definitely expected to win. Furthermore, many people expected the same.
In my mind, however, the Olympic games are about more than who wins and who loses. This isn't a world championship, where the most important thing is to win. The Olympics are about the athletic spirit and heart. I think many people lose sight of that, and I think Paula is among them.
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