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Sahara
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 Posted: 01/17/04 - 10:37 Post subject: Re: Training Program
| Phar lap, in part... wrote: |
I DO take you reply personally, I know of no other time where I have been "off-putting" especially to runners new and old, but then I've got broard shoulders and I'll get over it.
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I apologize if I've offended.
It's not the information that is potentially off-putting. I believe understood your point about the drive for more miles at the expense of form and speed, your plan for a sensible progression. I've read your thoughts on this before. Believe it or not I think it's great that you speak your mind in an effort to enlighten.
PM is open if this warrants further reply. For the record, I'd be more comfortable there than in the thread.
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Posted: 01/17/04 - 13:53 Post subject:
Phar lap-
I understand where you are coming from. I ran 5k's for years and years before attempting marathons. And I only think I ran the marathon because people talked about it ALL the time.
But, we are all individuals...sometimes I wish I could move into something new and just be happy with completion. I was doing pretty good at the 5k distance when I got the marathon bug...just to try it once. What did I find? That in comparison to the running community.....I am a WAY better marathoner than 5K racer. Who knew? What if I would have "tried" that distance at 25 rather than 35? I've just learned how to run a marathon properly and sheeeeeet, I'm old!
A few years ago, I was saying the same thing as you.....why the hurry.....build the background. I'm changing my tune a little due to my age. I have wishes to move into multisport....but have reservations about leaving something I'm pretty good at to something that I "hope I could finish". I've developed an admiration to those that can say "bring on my NEW challenge".
I think personalities have alot to do with it.
sue
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Phar lap
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Posted: 01/17/04 - 21:06 Post subject:
To all of you who have followed this thread.
I am deeply ashamed of myself for my second reply to Saraha. If I could delete it I would.
I had an issue, but I should have PM'ed Saraha rather than place it on a public forum.
I'm not as bad as my on line personality suggests and have since PM'ed Saraha to apologise in turn.
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runaroundsue
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Posted: 01/17/04 - 22:18 Post subject:
| Phar lap wrote: | To all of you who have followed this thread.
I am deeply ashamed of myself for my second reply to Saraha. If I could delete it I would.
I had an issue, but I should have PM'ed Saraha rather than place it on a public forum.
I'm not as bad as my on line personality suggests and have since PM'ed Saraha to apologise in turn. |
sounded like a passionate runner response to me.....don't kick yourself around. 
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Posted: 01/18/04 - 19:24 Post subject:
| jrjo wrote: | I like the look of your ratio plan there Sahara, but I would tweak it some just to be sure you're getting a hard/easy rotation. I often recommend a 3/1/2/1/2/1 series. And as long as you keep those 30% & 20% days surrounded by off days or 10% days, shuffling is easy enough. Often I run a 3/1/1/2/1/2/0 week, for instance. You need the recovery to be up for the next larger mileage and I'm afraid if you go with a 2/3/2 in the middle of your week, it's too much at once.
Getting to 13.1 miles doesn't need to be rocket science. How I'd go about it would be to just start from where you're at now, work out the 3/1/2/1/2/1 set of runs for your week. So if you're at 20 miles now, that would be runs of 6/2/4/2/4/2/0 for seven days. Then creep up the mileage to the middle of March incrementally each week so you make it to a 40 mile week. So say, two weeks out from your race, you'd be logging a week of 12/4/8/4/8/4/0 and then a taper week prior to the race with mileages of half that. You can work the weeks backwards from there with weeks of say 38, 35, 33, 30, 28, 26, 24, 22 & 20. It might be a quick progression since your timeline is a little tight, so you won't have much for step-back weeks or chances to take a week too easy.
And one final tidbit of advice..take only one bite at a time. If you're looking to increase your mileage, don't also mix in more speedwork. Getting your endurance to the halfM distance needs to be priority right now. Then when you have a timeline to keep your mileage consistent for awhile, you can add the speedwork training and not go at it with dead legs that are working on adapting to bigger miles. 
Hope that helps!  |
good advise. I followed the Guru's advise for my first half and was really happy with the results! Good luck to you!!!
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