To The People Of Iran: The United States Respects You And
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wanttorun100
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 Posted: 09/19/06 - 13:58 Post subject: To The People Of Iran: The United States Respects You And
Your Country.
| Quote: | The President of the United States
The greatest obstacle to a better future for Iran is that its rulers have chosen to deny the people of Iran liberty and use their nation's resources to fund terrorists, fuel extremism, and pursue nuclear weapons. The UN has passed a clear resolution requiring that the regime in Tehran meet its international obligations. Iran must abandon its nuclear weapons ambitions. The world has no objection to Iran's pursuit of a truly peaceful nuclear power program. We are working toward a diplomatic solution to this crisis, and we look to the day when the people of Iran can live in freedom - and America and Iran can be good friends and close partners in the cause of peace.
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Posted: 09/19/06 - 14:58 Post subject:
Let's just hope the talk is backed up by action.
Keep in mind the exact same scenarios that happened as precursors to Iraqi Freedom are in place and active under the expert tutelage of Rumsfeld/Cheney.
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Posted: 09/20/06 - 20:53 Post subject:
Bush is outright lying when he says he respects any country. Ask the Iraqi people. They are so much better off since we destablized Saddam's government. Right.
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Posted: 09/20/06 - 21:44 Post subject:
| GaRebelRunner wrote: | | Bush is outright lying when he says he respects any country. Ask the Iraqi people. They are so much better off since we destablized Saddam's government. Right. |
yeah there were more summary executions and mass murders when SH was in power, now the thug terrorists are murdering their own people who have wanted freedom for years. Go ask the people what they think. I know people whom had boots on the ground, and have told me directly that the Iraqi people don't want us to leave. Watch what you read or see on TV, I trust the man on the street with dirty boots than a pretty boy commentator broadcasting from a safe hotel room.
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Posted: 09/21/06 - 06:28 Post subject:
The country was still stable. It's up to the Iraqi people if they wanted a change of government, not the U.S. since Iraq did not present a threat to U.S. security. And you are being very hypocritical when you justify a U.S. invasion of Iraq on the basis of the brutality of Saddam but skip such actions by North Korea, Somalia, China, Syria and a few other countries. Based on your convictions I'm assuming we should begin invading them also to force our style of government on them. After all, we know what's best for the rest of the world.
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Posted: 09/21/06 - 15:43 Post subject:
| GaRebelRunner wrote: | | Bush is outright lying when he says he respects any country. Ask the Iraqi people. They are so much better off since we destablized Saddam's government. Right. |
I bet that if you actually asked the Iraqi people you'd get a majority positive response. And I think your statement about the president outright lying about respecting any country is typical of a Bush hating liberal - very little to base it on.
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Posted: 09/21/06 - 16:12 Post subject:
| copteacher wrote: | | I know people whom had boots on the ground, and have told me directly that the Iraqi people don't want us to leave. Watch what you read or see on TV, I trust the man on the street with dirty boots than a pretty boy commentator broadcasting from a safe hotel room. |
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Posted: 09/21/06 - 16:21 Post subject:
| robp wrote: | | [I bet that if you actually asked the Iraqi people you'd get a majority positive response. . |
Which of the up to 48,000 dead should we ask?
Iraqi body count That doesn't include the wounded or the families of the dead.
How about the American dead? Do realize that the number of troops that have died over there is just a hair lower than the number of people that the terrorists killed on 9-11.  When does it stop?
Since NONE of us know what the Iraqi people want, we should not speculate. However it is fair to say that Sudam did not kill almost 50,000 Iraqis. We did!
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Posted: 09/21/06 - 16:27 Post subject:
Freedom always comes at a cost.
The "death rate" with US forces there is still less than the "death rate" of Saddam killing his own people.
You wanna bring him back?
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Posted: 09/21/06 - 16:28 Post subject:
| marathonrnr262 wrote: | | robp wrote: | | [I bet that if you actually asked the Iraqi people you'd get a majority positive response. . |
Which of the up to 48,000 dead should we ask?
Iraqi body count That doesn't include the wounded or the families of the dead.
How about the American dead? Do realize that the number of troops that have died over there is just a hair lower than the number of people that the terrorists killed on 9-11. When does it stop?
Since NONE of us know what the Iraqi people want, we should not speculate. However it is fair to say that Sudam did not kill almost 50,000 Iraqis. We did!
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humm how many Kurds and other Iraqi's did sodom kill?
besides IRAN is a wee bit to the Right of Iraq
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Posted: 09/21/06 - 16:29 Post subject:
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Posted: 09/21/06 - 17:18 Post subject:
| jrjo wrote: | | Freedom always comes at a cost. |
And we the big bullies of the world are gonna make you free whether you want it or not. So there!
The "death rate" with US forces there is still less than the "death rate" of Saddam killing his own people.
You wanna bring him back?[/quote]
LINK? I admit he killed people and he was a very bad man. The lives of the almost 48,000 we killed is justified by his actions? He killed them so we can killed them. I thought we were trying to set them free?
I get it. We kill them and they are free of this world. The mother of the fvcking Iraqi shouldn't grive the loss of her daughter, we did iit in the name of freedom. It's colateral damage.
Pulleeesse. This old freedom crap might have worked 4 years ago- no wait, it didn't work then either- but it certainly isn't working now. Thiose people are dead and the mothers, fathers, brother and sisters of the dead are not happy that we are there.
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Posted: 09/21/06 - 17:34 Post subject:
| marathonrnr262 wrote: |
And we the big bullies of the world are gonna make you free whether you want it or not. So there!
LINK? I admit he killed people and he was a very bad man. The lives of the almost 48,000 we killed is justified by his actions? He killed them so we can killed them. I thought we were trying to set them free?
I get it. We kill them and they are free of this world. The mother of the fvcking Iraqi shouldn't grive the loss of her daughter, we did iit in the name of freedom. It's colateral damage.
Pulleeesse. This old freedom crap might have worked 4 years ago- no wait, it didn't work then either- but it certainly isn't working now. Thiose people are dead and the mothers, fathers, brother and sisters of the dead are not happy that we are there.
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yeah.. you're right, Lincoln should have conceded the North to the South and let slavery continued, freedom isn't worth it, right? The Allies should have let Hitler continue on his rampage of Europe, freedom isn't worth it, right? Presidents should spend their time playing with interns while terrorists plot to destroy the WTC, freedom isn't worth it, right?
Pulleeesse.
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Posted: 09/21/06 - 17:45 Post subject:
| jrjo wrote: | | marathonrnr262 wrote: |
And we the big bullies of the world are gonna make you free whether you want it or not. So there!
LINK? I admit he killed people and he was a very bad man. The lives of the almost 48,000 we killed is justified by his actions? He killed them so we can killed them. I thought we were trying to set them free?
I get it. We kill them and they are free of this world. The mother of the fvcking Iraqi shouldn't grive the loss of her daughter, we did iit in the name of freedom. It's colateral damage.
Pulleeesse. This old freedom crap might have worked 4 years ago- no wait, it didn't work then either- but it certainly isn't working now. Thiose people are dead and the mothers, fathers, brother and sisters of the dead are not happy that we are there.
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yeah.. you're right, Lincoln should have conceded the North to the South and let slavery continued, freedom isn't worth it, right? The Allies should have let Hitler continue on his rampage of Europe, freedom isn't worth it, right? Presidents should spend their time playing with interns while terrorists plot to destroy the WTC, freedom isn't worth it, right?
Pulleeesse. |
Your kidding, right.
1 When Lincoln went to war, EVERYONE fought. Thaose that wanted slavery fought for it and those that didn't fought for it and duh, those that didn't won. We weren;t invaded by someone. Can't see the differnence there?
ALLIES, now htere is a word you don't see atteached to the Iraqi war. The the Brite were nice and sent a hundred troops. Guess what, even Blair has come to his sences and is getting the fvck OUT.
And once again, it has been proven that Sadam and Iraq had NOTJING to so with the 9-11 attacks. Iraq has more terrorist now than they did before, because Iran is sending them money.
Freedom comes at a price, but don't ya thin we should ask those that are spending the money if they really wanna spend it. They have no electricity, they have very few schools, they have a government that is a joke and nobody listens to, they have bombs blowing up police headquarters everyday.
People are DYING over there because YOU want them to be free. Who the fvck are you to tell them what to do?
We need to get out and let them govern themsleves. I now we can't just pick up out troops, but we should have some plan of action. This was is another nam. Take a hill, give it up and let the VC have it back. Then decide a week later we want the hill again.
Bad choices were made. We need to deal with it and move on. Our defences are low and if some real threat really wanted to hurt us, they could because we have no army to protect us.
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Posted: 09/21/06 - 17:50 Post subject:
| marathonrnr262 wrote: | Our defences are low and if some real threat really wanted to hurt us, they could because we have no army to protect us.
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Somehow I highly doubt the absence of 140,000 troops from US soil has made this country unable to protect itself.
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