Thoughts on the Iowa Caucuses
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Cappy
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 Posted: 01/20/04 - 17:48 Post subject:
Dubya 
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coachmarkos
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 17:53 Post subject:
1st Bush 62%
2nd Kerry 55%
although the choices were pretty obvious as to which way they were slanted toward...
I'm pretty middle of the road.
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sonnylax
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 18:04 Post subject:
Speaking of politics... I'm somewhat suprised that none of you brought up Dean's (concession) speech yesterday.
He sounded like a wounded animal. Beyond weird.... 
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thegman
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 18:21 Post subject:
| sonnylax wrote: | | robp wrote: | | I think Wes Clark is the Dem's only chance of unseating George though. |
Remember one thing - Bill Clinton was in the White House when he fired Clark from his European command. I think the Clintons have enough dirt on him (and will use it) at the appropriate time in the campagin to ensure W's victory in 2004. I think the Clinton's are eyeing a return to the White House in 2008. They don't want to run against a Democrat incumbent. |
Wesley Clark: A Stalking Horse??? Say it 'aint so!! An interesting theory.
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camelia bedelia
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Posted: 01/20/04 - 21:03 Post subject:
| Cappy wrote: | | What exactly is a caucus, and how is it different from a regular election? |
In a caucus, the precinct members meet at a set time in one place. Our precinct was fairly big, with 370 people there. Others can be very small (20 or less) and might meet at someone's home.
First there is a precinct meeting, and then at 7pm (no sooner) people divide into groups for their candidate. An initial count is taken and if a candidate has less than 15% of those in attendance, they are deemed "not viable" (in our precinct, only Edwards, Dean and Kerry were viable). Their supporters than have the option of moving to another group, with the viable groups trying to woo those up for grabs to their side.
The idea is that there will be campaigning and discussion of the issues. In ours, there was limited discussion because most of the Gephart and Kucinich people had already decided who their second choice was.
After the final vote is counted, and the number of delegates for each calculated, delegates are elected to go to County Convention, and from there on to State Convention and then National.
It is a complicated, but interesting, process.
| megawill wrote: | | coachmarkos wrote: | Good post mega!
I was wondering what your thoughts would be, as a Demo from Iowa.
Like I said before...Edwards is kinda impressive. Don't know if that means he can win...for the reasons you mentioned, but he is a good candidate. |
But ulitmately, I decided on Kerry because of Edwards relative lack of inexperience (first term Senator) and because I really don't believe that Bush wants to go Toe to Toe with Kerry on National Security. So I went with the Kerry because in my opinion, I think he is the most formidable candidate. But there is a long way to go, so I'll reserve the right to change my opinion on that as things continue to unfold....
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Oh don't believe what he says. He went with Kerry because I used my "persuasive powers" to convince him. 
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runaroundsue
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Posted: 01/21/04 - 11:13 Post subject:
| camelia bedelia wrote: | | Cappy wrote: | | What exactly is a caucus, and how is it different from a regular election? |
In a caucus, the precinct members meet at a set time in one place. Our precinct was fairly big, with 370 people there. Others can be very small (20 or less) and might meet at someone's home.
First there is a precinct meeting, and then at 7pm (no sooner) people divide into groups for their candidate. An initial count is taken and if a candidate has less than 15% of those in attendance, they are deemed "not viable" (in our precinct, only Edwards, Dean and Kerry were viable). Their supporters than have the option of moving to another group, with the viable groups trying to woo those up for grabs to their side.
The idea is that there will be campaigning and discussion of the issues. In ours, there was limited discussion because most of the Gephart and Kucinich people had already decided who their second choice was.
After the final vote is counted, and the number of delegates for each calculated, delegates are elected to go to County Convention, and from there on to State Convention and then National.
It is a complicated, but interesting, process.
| megawill wrote: | | coachmarkos wrote: | Good post mega!
I was wondering what your thoughts would be, as a Demo from Iowa.
Like I said before...Edwards is kinda impressive. Don't know if that means he can win...for the reasons you mentioned, but he is a good candidate. |
But ulitmately, I decided on Kerry because of Edwards relative lack of inexperience (first term Senator) and because I really don't believe that Bush wants to go Toe to Toe with Kerry on National Security. So I went with the Kerry because in my opinion, I think he is the most formidable candidate. But there is a long way to go, so I'll reserve the right to change my opinion on that as things continue to unfold....
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megawill
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Oh don't believe what he says. He went with Kerry because I used my "persuasive powers" to convince him. |
and just how many years did it take?????? 
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