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sonnylax
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 Posted: 02/11/04 - 13:16 Post subject:
So which is it Pug?
| Pug wrote: | | Randomly invade various nations by striking without definable provocation by using the doctrine of Pre-emptive Strike. |
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| Pug wrote: | | "My fellow Americans, The United States of America entered into this war with Iraq because we believed that Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction and that they had the capablities to use the WMDs against the United States. (snip) |
Why would we randomly invade Iraq if we believed they had WMD?
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omega lambda
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 13:26 Post subject:
My thoughts on John Kerry?
He isn't very good looking.
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Cappy
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 13:27 Post subject:
| omega lambda wrote: | My thoughts on John Kerry?
He isn't very good looking. |
And he should fire his barber
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Sahara
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 13:28 Post subject:
When was the last time we had a bald(ing) president? I think that American people insist upon good hair in the 21st century.
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 13:29 Post subject:
| Sahara wrote: | | When was the last time we had a bald(ing) president? I think that American people insist upon good hair in the 21st century. |
ummm...well maybe that they have hair.
but I wouldn't call W's, Clintons, or Bush Sr.'s hair all that good.
now Reagan...he had a pretty good "do".
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Pug
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 13:29 Post subject:
Both. The second quote is what i would say if i was President Bush (or his speechwriters) and in the context of the entire speech. The first is becoming closer to what i personally believe.
I am not convinced that simply having WMD is a provocation for invasion. Again, there are several nations with WMD. The United States. India. Pakistan. North Korea. Russia. France (i think). Or, are these just the nuclear states. Who else has chemical and biological weapons? What are we doing about that? And, how does invading Iraq affect The War Against Terror (an unwinnable war, by the way)? Are we attacking all terrorists or just those that are politically conveniant? Or, just the ones that had something to do with 9/11? Saddam didn't have anything to do with that one.
I don't feel that simply having WMD (of some sort) is a definable provocation unless that nation directly and clearly threatens the United States. So, in that sense, it is random (unless we're going for that cheap sand). Pre-emptive strikes also make me wonder who is next. It also gives reasoning for anyone to attack us. "Example: Why did North Korea shoot a nuclear missile at the US? Because they thought we were going to attack them first." Any attack can become a justifiably pre-emptive strike. Bad doctrine.
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sonnylax
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 13:30 Post subject:
| Sahara wrote: | | When was the last time we had a bald(ing) president? I think that American people insist upon good hair in the 21st century. |
Yep. Yet another reason why the soccer moms of American elected Clinton (twice). 
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Cappy
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 13:31 Post subject:
| Sahara wrote: | | When was the last time we had a bald(ing) president? I think that American people insist upon good hair in the 21st century. |
Gerald Ford, Lyndon Johnson, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, yeah its been awhile
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Sahara
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 13:33 Post subject:
| sonnylax wrote: | | Sahara wrote: | | When was the last time we had a bald(ing) president? I think that American people insist upon good hair in the 21st century. |
Yep. Yet another reason why the soccer moms of American elected Clinton (twice). |
Uhm, I was thinking it was hair-envying dads.
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Sahara
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 13:34 Post subject:
| sonnylax wrote: | | Sahara wrote: | | When was the last time we had a bald(ing) president? I think that American people insist upon good hair in the 21st century. |
Yep. Yet another reason why the soccer moms of American elected Clinton (twice). |
Uhm, I was thinking it was hair-envying men.
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 13:35 Post subject:
| Sahara wrote: | | sonnylax wrote: | | Sahara wrote: | | When was the last time we had a bald(ing) president? I think that American people insist upon good hair in the 21st century. |
Yep. Yet another reason why the soccer moms of American elected Clinton (twice). |
Uhm, I was thinking it was hair-envying men. |
Nah, we just wanted a President who was also a pimp.
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 14:11 Post subject:
| omega lambda wrote: | My thoughts on John Kerry?
He isn't very good looking. |
 and his wife looks like a stereotypical frumpy middle aged woman.....with all their money you'd think both of them would look better and dress better.
Here's an interesting article my roomie sent me today about our "war hero":
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/bs20040211.shtml
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 14:12 Post subject:
| Cappy wrote: | | Sahara wrote: | | When was the last time we had a bald(ing) president? I think that American people insist upon good hair in the 21st century. |
Gerald Ford, Lyndon Johnson, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, yeah its been awhile |
Nixon had male pattern baldness but he had good hair.
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 15:04 Post subject:
| sonnylax wrote: | | Sahara wrote: | | When was the last time we had a bald(ing) president? I think that American people insist upon good hair in the 21st century. |
Yep. Yet another reason why the soccer moms of American elected Clinton (twice). |
Well...compare Clinton's hair to Dole's, and who would you have voted for? Certainly you don't actually consider the issues since they change every 20 minutes. Look at Kerry's stance on Iraq and WMD. He's stated numerous times he thought it was the right thing to do, now he's calling Bush on the carpet for it? They were both wrong!!! (or so it seems) Of course, Kerry may one day get to be the one who has to defend every move he makes, and some republican will be ramming it down his throat. That's why I love politics, respect and the truth don't matter. Kind of like reality shows.
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Posted: 02/11/04 - 17:01 Post subject:
That's SO WEIRD that townhall.com would write anything bad about John Kerry... I could never have predicted that... 
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