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Ms. Jenn
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 Posted: 03/25/06 - 21:13 Post subject: Texas arresting people in bars for being drunk
Heard about this yesterday afternoon, pretty absurd. The Today show showed a clip of a woman arrested in the bar of the hotel she was staying in. She was walking upstairs to bed, she wasn't driving, but they arrested her anyway.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11965237/
| Quote: | SAN ANTONIO, Texas - Texas has begun sending undercover agents into bars to arrest drinkers for being drunk, a spokeswoman for the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission said on Wednesday.
The first sting operation was conducted recently in a Dallas suburb where agents infiltrated 36 bars and arrested 30 people for public intoxication, said the commission’s Carolyn Beck.
Being in a bar does not exempt one from the state laws against public drunkenness, Beck said.
The goal, she said, was to detain drunks before they leave a bar and go do something dangerous like drive a car.
“We feel that the only way we’re going to get at the drunk driving problem and the problem of people hurting each other while drunk is by crackdowns like this,” she said.
“There are a lot of dangerous and stupid things people do when they’re intoxicated, other than get behind the wheel of a car,” Beck said. “People walk out into traffic and get run over, people jump off of balconies trying to reach a swimming pool and miss.”
She said the sting operations would continue throughout the state. |
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Posted: 03/25/06 - 21:18 Post subject:
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Posted: 03/25/06 - 21:18 Post subject: Re: Texas arresting people in bars for being drunk
| Ms. Jenn wrote: | Heard about this yesterday afternoon, pretty absurd. The Today show showed a clip of a woman arrested in the bar of the hotel she was staying in. She was walking upstairs to bed, she wasn't driving, but they arrested her anyway.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11965237/
| Quote: | SAN ANTONIO, Texas - Texas has begun sending undercover agents into bars to arrest drinkers for being drunk, a spokeswoman for the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission said on Wednesday.
The first sting operation was conducted recently in a Dallas suburb where agents infiltrated 36 bars and arrested 30 people for public intoxication, said the commission’s Carolyn Beck.
Being in a bar does not exempt one from the state laws against public drunkenness, Beck said.
The goal, she said, was to detain drunks before they leave a bar and go do something dangerous like drive a car.
“We feel that the only way we’re going to get at the drunk driving problem and the problem of people hurting each other while drunk is by crackdowns like this,” she said.
“There are a lot of dangerous and stupid things people do when they’re intoxicated, other than get behind the wheel of a car,” Beck said. “People walk out into traffic and get run over, people jump off of balconies trying to reach a swimming pool and miss.”
She said the sting operations would continue throughout the state. |
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 Happens to sober people all the time too.  I get what they're saying but this seems a bit over the top to me. 
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Posted: 03/25/06 - 21:59 Post subject:
As long as this is not enacted in Mad City, all is well. 
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Posted: 03/26/06 - 06:51 Post subject:
I hear Ohio is gona start arresting people before they get drunk.
Drinking leads to sinful acts such as card playing, dancing and *gasp*, Hashing.... 
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Posted: 03/26/06 - 07:07 Post subject:
| RangerG wrote: | I hear Ohio is gona start arresting people before they get drunk.
Drinking leads to sinful acts such as card playing, dancing and *gasp*, Hashing.... |
can you Riff Raff from Prison?
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Posted: 03/26/06 - 07:11 Post subject:
| HYPERASHEL wrote: | | RangerG wrote: | I hear Ohio is gona start arresting people before they get drunk.
Drinking leads to sinful acts such as card playing, dancing and *gasp*, Hashing.... |
can you Riff Raff from Prison? |
Ask J1...I mean inmate number 24974. 
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Posted: 03/26/06 - 11:33 Post subject:
ya know i've been thinking on this. this is ludicrous. I mean if they started arresting people that have firearms beacuse they might rob a bank, shoot somebody could you imagine the stink the NRA would be making?
sure as hell glad i'm not in TexASS for sure now.
Pfffft, get out while you can and before it turns into a police state.
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Posted: 03/26/06 - 12:15 Post subject:
| HYPERASHEL wrote: | ya know i've been thinking on this. this is ludicrous. I mean if they started arresting people that have firearms beacuse they might rob a bank, shoot somebody could you imagine the stink the NRA would be making?
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The charge was "public drunkenness". No different than if you took your firearm and went swinging it around in public. Makes perfect sense to me. You can have firearms in your home, you operate them safely and you don't take your misbehavior into public, that's perfectly legal. Same should go for alcohol. You want to consume in your home, consume appropriately and keep misbehavior out of public, that's fine. "Public drunkenness" is a law on the books, and imho, kudos for somebody having the nads to enforce it. 
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Posted: 03/26/06 - 14:27 Post subject:
| .jrjo wrote: | | "Public drunkenness" is a law on the books, and imho, kudos for somebody having the nads to enforce it. |
There are many, many laws, archaic and otherwise, which aren't enforced but it's not for lack of "nads."
As I've previously posted, the woman interviewed for the t.v. news segment stated that this was being done, not so much to keep drunks off of the road - because not all drunks drive - but to keep bartenders/bar owners from serving alcohol to obviously inebriated customers.
"Agents infiltrated" bars? Wow, were they in disguise? I wonder if they used code names?
Did the agents administer field sobriety tests? Were Breathalyzers used?
It's good to see that the great state of Texas is finally doing something about real crime. After they've rounded up all the drunks, perhaps they might want to focus on illegal immigration.
Wait!! I've got it! Why not build mega-bars, right at the border?!? Neon signs flashing, "Cerveza...Fria...Barata" Whoo-wee, boy! Two fer the price of one! Maybe Homeland Security can get in on this one, pitch in a few bucks, help Texas defray the costs.
Or course, Shiner, Pearl, and Lone Star breweries will be all "We support this effort." But, behind those corporate doors...?
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Posted: 03/26/06 - 14:28 Post subject:
| RangerG wrote: | I hear Ohio is gona start arresting people before they get drunk.
Drinking leads to sinful acts such as card playing, dancing and *gasp*, Hashing.... |
careful.... this thread is now in danger or relocation
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Posted: 03/26/06 - 14:33 Post subject:
should I cancel my vacation to SA??
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Posted: 03/26/06 - 14:34 Post subject:
| runaroundsue wrote: | | should I cancel my vacation to SA?? |
probably a good idea.
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Posted: 03/26/06 - 14:36 Post subject:
| .jrjo wrote: | | HYPERASHEL wrote: | ya know i've been thinking on this. this is ludicrous. I mean if they started arresting people that have firearms beacuse they might rob a bank, shoot somebody could you imagine the stink the NRA would be making?
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The charge was "public drunkenness". No different than if you took your firearm and went swinging it around in public. Makes perfect sense to me. You can have firearms in your home, you operate them safely and you don't take your misbehavior into public, that's perfectly legal. Same should go for alcohol. You want to consume in your home, consume appropriately and keep misbehavior out of public, that's fine. "Public drunkenness" is a law on the books, and imho, kudos for somebody having the nads to enforce it. |
Seems like this is the same thing as my local po-po hanging out on the corner to see if anyone is speeding. I don't speed in my town now, and I am a lot more aware of the speed limit other places I go as a result of our guys being so militant about speeders. This is the same thing, only for those drinkers that are breaking the law. Almost every state/town/community has a law regarding public intoxication. They're not doing anything wrong by enforcing it, and maybe now people will drink more responsibility.
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Posted: 03/26/06 - 14:38 Post subject:
| runaroundsue wrote: | | should I cancel my vacation to SA?? |
If you plan to buy alcoholic beverages, you might want to make your purchase out of state. The word on the street is that the "agents" are going to stake out stores which sell liquor.
This strategy is known as the Barney "Nip It In The Bud" Fife Method.
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