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Laurie Ellen
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 Posted: 04/21/04 - 14:55 Post subject:
| akern wrote: | | Pug wrote: |
Maybe its just me, but i don't have so much of a sense of humor about my property, especially if co-workers are messing with it. That's just not appropriate to me. |
I'm not saying what Keith did was right. Trust me I've been on the receiving end of all that stuff. When I first started working here I was a 20 yr old girl tossed into the middle of a machine shop with 30 other men. My stuff was messed with, let me tell ya. I have an excellent sense of humor but I will admit sometimes I'd had enough. But you know what? Instead of telling on someone I'd confront the offender face to face and say "Hey a-hole you're really p!ssing me off!" And guess what? They'd STOP doing whatever it was they were doing!
G-dog I'm sorry about your picture! That's horrible. No one around here would destroy anything let alone something as personal as that. We're talking about some tools being labled and re-arranged. I'm not sure what type of work environment you guys are working in, but when you work in a machine shop: Your wrenches will be greased, your tools will be rearranged, you'll have holes poked in your soda can when your not looking, I could go on all day. |
Sounds like a fun bunch. There's nothing better than a cool work atmosphere. I hope it turns out ok.
Overly sensitive people make me want to vomit. There's always one in the crowd that gets their boxers in a bunch if the wrong word is said or whatever. These same people are usually the whiners, the butt-kissers, the troublemakers. People who don't fit in and can't get along, so they make everyone who can absolutely miserable. Get over it and grow up, already! 
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Posted: 04/21/04 - 14:56 Post subject:
| akern wrote: | | G-dog I'm sorry about your picture! That's horrible. No one around here would destroy anything let alone something as personal as that. We're talking about some tools being labled and re-arranged. I'm not sure what type of work environment you guys are working in, but when you work in a machine shop: Your wrenches will be greased, your tools will be rearranged, you'll have holes poked in your soda can when your not looking, I could go on all day. |
Thank you. But I could almost understand poking a hole in a can of pop at work. Did you ever trying doing it to someone's bottle of beer? Not very easy!
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akern
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Posted: 04/21/04 - 15:03 Post subject:
| gretriever wrote: | | Did you ever trying doing it to someone's bottle of beer? Not very easy! |
No, but if you take a bottle of beer and tap it on top of someone else's bottle of beer kinda hard, the persons beer who got tapped will foam uncontrollably up and out of the bottle.  I learned that from "one of the guys" too. The rest of my foamy beer ended up on his head. 
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Laurie Ellen
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Posted: 04/21/04 - 15:04 Post subject:
| akern wrote: | | gretriever wrote: | | Did you ever trying doing it to someone's bottle of beer? Not very easy! |
No, but if you take a bottle of beer and tap it on top of someone else's bottle of beer kinda hard, the persons beer who got tapped will foam uncontrollably up and out of the bottle. I learned that from "one of the guys" too. The rest of my foamy beer ended up on his head. |
Good God, Akey!! 
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Posted: 04/21/04 - 15:05 Post subject:
I'd forgotten about that one!
(memo to self - remember to buy Achey a bottle of beer when we meet  )
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Posted: 04/21/04 - 15:16 Post subject:
That stinks a bunch. I hope it all works out OK.
I have known plenty of guys who worked in shops like that, and the pranks come fast and furious. Whoever can't take it shouldn't be working there.
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Posted: 04/21/04 - 15:27 Post subject:
| ShannonG wrote: | That stinks a bunch. I hope it all works out OK.
I have known plenty of guys who worked in shops like that, and the pranks come fast and furious. Whoever can't take it shouldn't be working there. |
I disagree. If it is a skill you are good at and you enjoy the work, you shouldn't have to put up with pranks or people messing with your stuff just because someone else is having a good time at your expense.
I agree with Akern that you should first go to the person, if the behavior is bothering you, and if that doesn't stop it, go to management. There is no reason to have to put up with anything at work that you find inappropriate. After confronting the person, at that point it becomes harassment if it continues.
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ShannonG
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Posted: 04/21/04 - 15:34 Post subject:
| Pug wrote: | | ShannonG wrote: | That stinks a bunch. I hope it all works out OK.
I have known plenty of guys who worked in shops like that, and the pranks come fast and furious. Whoever can't take it shouldn't be working there. |
I disagree. If it is a skill you are good at and you enjoy the work, you shouldn't have to put up with pranks or people messing with your stuff just because someone else is having a good time at your expense.
I agree with Akern that you should first go to the person, if the behavior is bothering you, and if that doesn't stop it, go to management. There is no reason to have to put up with anything at work that you find inappropriate. After confronting the person, at that point it becomes harassment if it continues. |
The work environment existed before this person worked there, and will continue to exist when that person is gone. They need to make an effort to fit into the environment, not the other way around, provided it is not unsafe/harassing/cruel.
I respect your opinion, I just disagree with you.
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Posted: 04/21/04 - 15:42 Post subject:
| ShannonG wrote: | | Pug wrote: | | ShannonG wrote: | That stinks a bunch. I hope it all works out OK.
I have known plenty of guys who worked in shops like that, and the pranks come fast and furious. Whoever can't take it shouldn't be working there. |
I disagree. If it is a skill you are good at and you enjoy the work, you shouldn't have to put up with pranks or people messing with your stuff just because someone else is having a good time at your expense.
I agree with Akern that you should first go to the person, if the behavior is bothering you, and if that doesn't stop it, go to management. There is no reason to have to put up with anything at work that you find inappropriate. After confronting the person, at that point it becomes harassment if it continues. |
The work environment existed before this person worked there, and will continue to exist when that person is gone. They need to make an effort to fit into the environment, not the other way around, provided it is not unsafe/harassing/cruel.
I respect your opinion, I just disagree with you. |
I understand that, and to an extent i agree, but those who are doing the pranks should have the courtesy to leave any guy (or gal) who is bothered by that behavior. The guy should have that same courtesy to bring the problem to the offender.
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Sahara
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Posted: 04/21/04 - 15:43 Post subject:
Your husband shouldn't be singled out if it was a collaborative effort.
The way that you handled the pranksters at 20 yo is ideal. 1. Confront them to let them know it's not acceptable. (it doesn't have to be as formal as my words sound, obviously) 2. Move on.
Not everyone has the fortitude to do it like you, obviously.
I had the impression initially that guy was being picked on. It made me think of kids who hadn't learned better... picking on someone because they are different (weaker, socially inept, different, friendless, or new...). In your follow up post it seemed to me that it's a company culture issue where it's acceptable to treat people and their belongings that way. Frankly, I don't think that's acceptable. Not in a machine shop. Not in school. Not on the ballfield. Maybe I've read the situation incorrectly. Perhaps they are all great buddies and it was this guy's turn, but it didn't read that way to me.
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Posted: 04/22/04 - 09:11 Post subject:
| Pug wrote: | | ShannonG wrote: | That stinks a bunch. I hope it all works out OK.
I have known plenty of guys who worked in shops like that, and the pranks come fast and furious. Whoever can't take it shouldn't be working there. |
I disagree. If it is a skill you are good at and you enjoy the work, you shouldn't have to put up with pranks or people messing with your stuff just because someone else is having a good time at your expense.
I agree with Akern that you should first go to the person, if the behavior is bothering you, and if that doesn't stop it, go to management. There is no reason to have to put up with anything at work that you find inappropriate. After confronting the person, at that point it becomes harassment if it continues. |
I'll chime in on the Pug side of the equation. I'm not definite about the type of machine shop here, but in industrial settings, it's all too easy for accidents to occur. I worked in a plant that had over 1000 "pinchpoints". Places in the manufacturing process where equipment was openly exposed for quick acccess and observation, so it was just plain inherently dangerous. Pranks, disruptions and not taking the job serious were invitations to lose a finger, an arm or a life if it wasn't 100% mind on the job all shift long. Locker-room antics aside, out on "the floor", messing around shouldn't be acceptible. 
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Posted: 04/22/04 - 09:24 Post subject:
| nolefan85 wrote: | | akern wrote: | | rolling rock wrote: |
is keith the only one "taking the heat" |
Yes. |
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Posted: 04/22/04 - 09:35 Post subject:
Well, I've worked in a few plants.
On the floor....two different metal shops....a company that built road construction equipment....and a transformer recovery business....
Let me tell you my experience....
Pranks are to be expected. If it's harmless...no biggee. If it goes beyond the line...tell the person, like Achey. Most guys are really cool about it, and will even apoligize if they cross a line.
If this is the atmosphere, and Keith is the only one taking the heat, that is just plain wrong. He needs to fight this, and he needs support from his coworkers.
This is just wrong. I'm not saying horsing around is right, but it does go on, and in some cases...really helps morale. I remember one summer working in the metal shop, and two guys kept making signs on cardboard above their workstations...that kept getting funnier. It's just kind of the nature of the beast.
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Posted: 04/22/04 - 10:26 Post subject:
| jrjo wrote: | | Pug wrote: | | ShannonG wrote: | That stinks a bunch. I hope it all works out OK.
I have known plenty of guys who worked in shops like that, and the pranks come fast and furious. Whoever can't take it shouldn't be working there. |
I disagree. If it is a skill you are good at and you enjoy the work, you shouldn't have to put up with pranks or people messing with your stuff just because someone else is having a good time at your expense.
I agree with Akern that you should first go to the person, if the behavior is bothering you, and if that doesn't stop it, go to management. There is no reason to have to put up with anything at work that you find inappropriate. After confronting the person, at that point it becomes harassment if it continues. |
I'll chime in on the Pug side of the equation. I'm not definite about the type of machine shop here, but in industrial settings, it's all too easy for accidents to occur. I worked in a plant that had over 1000 "pinchpoints". Places in the manufacturing process where equipment was openly exposed for quick acccess and observation, so it was just plain inherently dangerous. Pranks, disruptions and not taking the job serious were invitations to lose a finger, an arm or a life if it wasn't 100% mind on the job all shift long. Locker-room antics aside, out on "the floor", messing around shouldn't be acceptible. |
unfornuately, I have first hand knowledge that this is true. If a person is intimadated or harassed in this type of environment, their mind isn't working 100% and their life is in danger. 
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