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 Posted: 03/05/06 - 08:56 Post subject: So my wife watched a show on the Military Channel last night
and really liked it.
It was "Ace in the Hole" The capture of Sadaam Hussien. She really like the show and knew that one of my best friends was in Iraq at the time of his capture and was posted at the prison where SH was held.
Now if I can just get her to discuss the aspects of the Pelopennisian War, Hoplite warfare and tactics, and George Patton, she would understand me a little bit more.
she's coming around greg.
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Cappy
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Posted: 03/05/06 - 09:32 Post subject:
All is fair in love and war 
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Posted: 03/05/06 - 11:06 Post subject:
| Cappy wrote: | | All is fair in love and war |
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andydp
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Posted: 03/05/06 - 16:22 Post subject:
How about the Second Punic War and Hannibal's victory at Cannae ?
The importance of the double envelopment ?
What did Gen JCH Lee do in WWII that so upset Gen Patton ?
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copteacher
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Posted: 03/05/06 - 20:52 Post subject:
| andydp wrote: | How about the Second Punic War and Hannibal's victory at Cannae ?
The importance of the double envelopment ?
What did Gen JCH Lee do in WWII that so upset Gen Patton ? |
those are great topics for pillow talk
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TriBob
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Posted: 03/05/06 - 21:13 Post subject:
Don't forget the napalm candles. 
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airehead
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Posted: 03/06/06 - 01:53 Post subject:
Don't forget about why Napoleon Bonaparte was so controversial and also the pros and cons of his type of leadership.
The old TAC/SAC/MAC Air Force.
The SR-71 being mothballed despite it's amazing capabilities.
Or, how much capacity C-5s carry vs. C-130s.
What a Tunner is.
Chesty Puller, Hap Arnold and Billy Mitchell and others like them and their contributions to modern warfare and military practices.
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msparks
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Posted: 03/06/06 - 08:24 Post subject:
| airehead wrote: | | The SR-71 being mothballed despite it's amazing capabilities. |
Exact capabilities which we'll probably never know, first among them being airspeed and altitude.
And why were they mothballed?
| Quote: | | Or, how much capacity C-5s carry vs. C-130s. |
All one needs to do to understand this one is to see the aircraft, side by side. And the Galaxy is so much more comfortable to fly in than the Hercules...not even close!
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airehead
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Posted: 03/06/06 - 14:10 Post subject:
| msparks wrote: | | airehead wrote: | | The SR-71 being mothballed despite it's amazing capabilities. |
Exact capabilities which we'll probably never know, first among them being airspeed and altitude.
And why were they mothballed?
| Quote: | | Or, how much capacity C-5s carry vs. C-130s. |
All one needs to do to understand this one is to see the aircraft, side by side. And the Galaxy is so much more comfortable to fly in than the Hercules...not even close! |
But, on the 130s vs the C5s--which will fit into the terrain you're trying to land on--that's what makes all the difference.
And the SR-71s were retired because its capabilities were no longer required. Supposedly something new came on the scene. But, alas, you're correct. We'll never know exactly what capabilities t had. There's a handful of people who know, but most of that info is still classified.
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msparks
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Posted: 03/06/06 - 15:03 Post subject:
| Quote: | | But, on the 130s vs the C5s--which will fit into the terrain you're trying to land on--that's what makes all the difference. |
Sure, the C-130's don't need as much runway for TO/L...but the load capacity of the C-5's is so much greater than that of the smaller aircraft. It depends on what needs to be moved, pure and simple. Some things just cannot be moved via the C-130, regardless of length of runway. If it won't fit inside the Hercules, you can have the longest runway on the planet and it'll do you no good. I had information regarding just such an event. It was classified at the time but I'm still hesitant to speak of it, even though it may have been declassed years ago. Something needed to be transported and the Galaxy was the only aircraft which could do the job.
| Quote: | | And the SR-71s were retired because its capabilities were no longer required. Supposedly something new came on the scene. But, alas, you're correct. We'll never know exactly what capabilities t had. There's a handful of people who know, but most of that info is still classified. |
Oh, how I am so aware of this very thing....modern technology has replaced the need for more than the Blackbird. Even though it may seem to be a minor problem, personnel retention was difficult. The training of the groundcrews took a long time. Keeping them in the Air Force wasn't the easiest thing, either.
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airehead
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Posted: 03/06/06 - 15:10 Post subject:
| msparks wrote: | | Quote: | | But, on the 130s vs the C5s--which will fit into the terrain you're trying to land on--that's what makes all the difference. |
Sure, the C-130's don't need as much runway for TO/L...but the load capacity of the C-5's is so much greater than that of the smaller aircraft. It depends on what needs to be moved, pure and simple. Some things just cannot be moved via the C-130, regardless of length of runway. If it won't fit inside the Hercules, you can have the longest runway on the planet and it'll do you no good. I had information regarding just such an event. It was classified at the time but I'm still hesitant to speak of it, even though it may have been declassed years ago. Something needed to be transported and the Galaxy was the only aircraft which could do the job.
| Quote: | | And the SR-71s were retired because its capabilities were no longer required. Supposedly something new came on the scene. But, alas, you're correct. We'll never know exactly what capabilities t had. There's a handful of people who know, but most of that info is still classified. |
Oh, how I am so aware of this very thing....modern technology has replaced the need for more than the Blackbird. Even though it may seem to be a minor problem, personnel retention was difficult. The training of the groundcrews took a long time. Keeping them in the Air Force wasn't the easiest thing, either. |
Bingo on the 130/C5 issue.
There's a lot that I hear around that I don't discuss because I never know how it will be used or interpreted. (Even stuff that's in the base paper--silly as it is, someone might use that info plus another piece to do harm). That being said, let's go to the E/O club and talk about it!!!
There's a few guys in Mr Aire's squadron that talk to me like I'm not some empty headed bimbo. They discuss (non-classified) plans, maneuvers, etc with me. I LOVE IT!! The others just treat me like a "Ma'am" and ignore me completely. 
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MW
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Posted: 03/06/06 - 15:13 Post subject:
ummm...pizza?
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RangerG
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Posted: 03/06/06 - 15:14 Post subject:
*blink*
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msparks
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Posted: 03/06/06 - 15:26 Post subject:
| airehead wrote: | | Bingo on the 130/C5 issue. |
Oooh, don't say "bingo" to aircrew! At least, to Navy aircrew.
| Quote: | There's a lot that I hear around that I don't discuss because I never know how it will be used or interpreted. (Even stuff that's in the base paper--silly as it is, someone might use that info plus another piece to do harm). That being said, let's go to the E/O club and talk about it!!!
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Well, if it's published in the base paper, it's there for any and everyone to see. No harm, no foul. But I understand. It's just that the stuff I got to read (on a daily basis) made reading newspapers so very, very dull. But, yes! Let's hit the club. Buy me a beer and I'll tell you anything!
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airehead
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Posted: 03/06/06 - 15:27 Post subject:
| msparks wrote: | | airehead wrote: | | Bingo on the 130/C5 issue. |
Oooh, don't say "bingo" to aircrew! At least, to Navy aircrew.
| Quote: | There's a lot that I hear around that I don't discuss because I never know how it will be used or interpreted. (Even stuff that's in the base paper--silly as it is, someone might use that info plus another piece to do harm). That being said, let's go to the E/O club and talk about it!!!
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Well, if it's published in the base paper, it's there for any and everyone to see. No harm, no foul. But I understand. It's just that the stuff I got to read (on a daily basis) made reading newspapers so very, very dull. But, yes! Let's hit the club. Buy me a beer and I'll tell you anything! |
Will do!!
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