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airehead
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PostPosted: 11/12/04 - 20:33    Post subject: So, he's guilty...
according to the jurors...

Do you think public opinion tried him before the courts could and thus ensured his jury would be prejudiced?

Did you expect Scott Peterson to be guilty?

Have you wondered why this case has gotten so much media attention?

Do you think he'll get life or the death penalty? (Not really an argument as to whether it is right or not, just which one will they go for)


Do you have any opinions on this case?
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PostPosted: 11/12/04 - 20:47    Post subject:
I expected 2nd degree, not first degree.

Yes I do think the public's opinion was overwhelming that he was guilty which is unfortunate that since we are presumed innocent until proved otherwise.

I don't know the process the press uses in selecting a case to embrace and making it high profile / lead story etc?

I think he'll get life.

Further 1)I also think (my opinion, I'm no lawyer) that the juror replacements and whatnot during jury deliberations may provide the defense with a better shot in their appeal 2) if truly guilty, how does one go from cheating on your wife and wanting to be with the mistress to murdering your wife?? I'm at a loss there.
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PostPosted: 11/12/04 - 20:56    Post subject:
prohemp wrote:
2) if truly guilty, how does one go from cheating on your wife and wanting to be with the mistress to murdering your wife?? I'm at a loss there.


Yeah, me too. But people are stupid, people are selfish. He was both, IMO.

Agree that the jury issues will help the defense.

Really, I wasn't sure they'd convict. After OJ, seems like anything is possible, regardless of what seems obvious.

I hope he gets the death penalty. I doubt he will.
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PostPosted: 11/12/04 - 21:31    Post subject:
I was surprised at the first degree, conviction

I think he will get life in prison
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PostPosted: 11/12/04 - 22:30    Post subject:
I wasn't surprised at all about the first degree conviction. First degree is premeditation. Making cement anchors and other things they said he did implies premeditation.

What I am surprised about is the differentiation between Laci's murder and Connor's. She was about to deliver. If he didn't WANT Connor dead and PLAN to get rid of him, too, he would have waited until after Laci gave birth to him to kill her.

He wanted rid of both of them... he wanted another life, and felt he had the right to scratch his slate clean.

He should have gotten 1st Degree on both and should be put to death, the way he decided that poor woman and her son should be.
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PostPosted: 11/13/04 - 07:36    Post subject:
no death. I think the findings were right. It will be appealed but he will still be guilty.
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PostPosted: 11/13/04 - 12:32    Post subject: Re: So, he's guilty...
airehead wrote:
Do you think public opinion tried him before the courts could
yes, I think that is common in most news stories though.
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and thus ensured his jury would be prejudiced?
I'm not as sure about this because (see below)

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Did you expect Scott Peterson to be guilty?
No, I expected him to get off. There was no 'smoking gun' there was no motive. I wasn't sure the jury would be beyond all reasonable doubt, ala OJ. Do I think, given the limited evidence and snippets of the case we see in the news, he is guilty? As the day is long, yes. But I again have limited information, so I guess that isn' fair. What is fair is the courts said he was guilty.

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Have you wondered why this case has gotten so much media attention?
I often wonder why certain cases get TONS of media attention while others get swept under. I have no idea why some get as much as they do. Jon Benet Ramsey comes to mind as another one. Children come up missing/killed (unfortunately) every day. dunno Affluence maybe?
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PostPosted: 11/13/04 - 20:55    Post subject: Re: So, he's guilty...
cherylpf wrote:
...I often wonder why certain cases get TONS of media attention while others get swept under. I have no idea why some get as much as they do. Jon Benet Ramsey comes to mind as another one. Children come up missing/killed (unfortunately) every day. dunno Affluence maybe?...


to everything pffffff said in the above post. I'm responding here specifically to the last part:

Affluence is definitely plays a part in some cases. Crime knows no boundaries. Crime happens and is committed by all races and all genders. I believe the news stories pick up on these stories to help bunk the myth that crime only happens to and is committed by the less fortunate minorities. The mentality of : If this successful white man could brutally murder his beautiful white wife who had the perfect life and everything she wanted (seemingly) and their unborn child, it can happen to anyone.
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PostPosted: 11/13/04 - 22:14    Post subject:
He'll get death.

But I'm disturbed by the lack of direct evidence found. More of guilty by coincidence. It seemed the Modesto Police presumed Scott Peterson was the one and only suspect, and went through the motions to consider others. While I have little doubt of his guilt, the dearth of direct evidence is very disturbing to me.

The coverage before the trial (thanks in large part the presumptions of both paper and TV tabloids that Peterson was guilty) also seemed to guarantee it all but impossible to find jurors who would approach this unbiased.
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PostPosted: 11/13/04 - 22:28    Post subject:
How come during this trial no one ever brought up why he was trying to sneak out of the country with dyed hair? For that matter, how come no one brought up why OJ was speeding down the highway like a lunatic? These are the points that stick in the minds of people, even people who actively work to never read another word about it.

I have tried not to pay attention to this case but I've thought he was guilty from the get-go. I hope he gets life in prison, I feel that playing around with dismissing jurors at the end of the trial last week could help him not get death.
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PostPosted: 11/13/04 - 22:35    Post subject:
Gogirlgo wrote:
How come during this trial no one ever brought up why he was trying to sneak out of the country with dyed hair? For that matter, how come no one brought up why OJ was speeding down the highway like a lunatic? These are the points that stick in the minds of people, even people who actively work to never read another word about it.

I have tried not to pay attention to this case but I've thought he was guilty from the get-go. I hope he gets life in prison, I feel that playing around with dismissing jurors at the end of the trial last week could help him not get death.


he tried to sneak out of the country with dyed hair?
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PostPosted: 11/13/04 - 22:40    Post subject:
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he tried to sneak out of the country with dyed hair?


Yes, and with several thousand dollars and his brother's ID card.

That had big air play around here, but we're very close to Modesto.

It was conjectured that the defense would definitely be able to use the jury changes in Peterson's appeal process.
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PostPosted: 11/13/04 - 23:53    Post subject:
camelia bedelia wrote:


he tried to sneak out of the country with dyed hair?


Yeah, wasn't he blonde for a brief period? I vaguely remember that too. I'm with Go on the guilty from the get-go part, but I can't decide whether I'd rather see him die so my tax dollars don't have to pay to keep his miserable a** alive for the rest of his life or whether I want to see his smug little self be someone's playtoy til he either goes mad and kills himself or just dreads waking up every day for the rest of his life. That's the very least he deserves. I'm pro death penalty for cases like this, but between him being a pretty white boy and a child killer, he's not gonna be very popular in there (or will he?) and death might be a kinder option than what he'd live through every day for the next, what....40 years or so?

I also agree with LE, I am very disappointed on the 2nd degree murder charge for Conner. It's pretty clear that both deaths were premeditated, IMHO. I was really afraid when they started dumping jurors that he was going to get off because of the supposed lack of evidence.
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PostPosted: 11/14/04 - 00:53    Post subject:
Connor's death was not the intended target so to speak he was "collerteral damage". If I had a beef with an airline pilot and shot the co pilot too, 1st degree for the pilot, 2nd degree for the co pilot. 2nd degree murders are actually more dangerous because they are often unintended victims.
G3 or Gman should help with this too.
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PostPosted: 11/14/04 - 08:14    Post subject:
camelia bedelia wrote:


he tried to sneak out of the country with dyed hair?


Info on his arrest
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/04/19/peterson.case/

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