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 Posted: 05/18/04 - 17:22 Post subject: Simply Accounting anybody?
so we have to do this Simply Accounting program in our last part of intro accounting.
we're thinking it's going to be gravy, and really easy to use and all that.
well it should be easy to use, but all we have for instructions are a booklet that came with the assignments.
so, basically you get an entry - and if it has a checkmark beside it - then it's new stuff and you go to page 97 (or whatever) and follow the steps.
now, unfortunately the instructions don't account for the fact that you may have made a mistake in one of your entries, and you have to figure out how to make this other entry without knowing you messed up before, and sit there thinking "i am a moron, and i can't follow instructions".
we don't have a lecture at all. he just wanders from person to person if we need help...
i haven't made any sense of it at all - i get something like a Cash Invoice Purchase, and there's like 8 different places i could go to enter it - is it a quote, an invoice, a sale, a cash sale - do i make entries to more then one account? it's cash, but how do i debit the Coffee Supplies account - and ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!! you can work on it on your own - but if you get stuck on an entry and your confused, your screwed and you have to go to class, and the process really drags...
some form of a walkthrough would be *REALLY* freiken nice. it's seriously the best way to do it - kids that figure it out can do it on their own time on spares, but those of us that'd like some actual *instruction* (which i'm thinking is what we paid them for) would like to get it.
on tuesday we have a test in it worth 10% that's supposed to be *gimme* marks, and now it looks to me like it's going to be a big hole in my letter grade. it's going to be hard to get an A+ in a class when you lose like 5-10% of your overall grade on some program you've never recieved instruction on....
 i have an A+ and an A in my first two accounting courses, and this damn program is going to screw me right over. i.am.not.impressed.
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Posted: 05/18/04 - 17:35 Post subject:
WOW.... that's about as "real world" as it gets! 
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Posted: 05/18/04 - 17:43 Post subject:
our intro was something like this:
"open up the file "reliable" and work on that."
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"is anyone having trouble getting the file open?"
 unfreiken believable. i'm not sure how some kids have put it together so fast.... and it's not like i'm computer or accounting illiterate...
don't most offices offer training programs when they bring in new software? 
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Posted: 05/18/04 - 17:45 Post subject:
| blue wrote: | | don't most offices offer training programs when they bring in new software? |
 ....that's a good one!
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Posted: 05/18/04 - 17:47 Post subject:
| blue wrote: | | don't most offices offer training programs when they bring in new software? |
Oh dear Blue....When you graduate? don't get a job where I work... 
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Posted: 05/18/04 - 17:54 Post subject:
Maybe I'm way off base here, but don't companies bring in "trainers" when new software/programs are being introduced?
I know that whenever a new textbook series was being adopted by our school district, there were people from that publishing company there to show you that series...the ins...the outs...etc. I just wondered if that was done in the business world as well?
I'm sure that in most cases you have to learn how to do things through application. I just assumed that you would be trained along the way.
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Posted: 05/18/04 - 18:01 Post subject:
| nolefan85 wrote: | | Maybe I'm way off base here, but don't companies bring in "trainers" when new software/programs are being introduced? |
Maybe if you work for a Fortune 500 company, but my experience has been in what I've seen of the other 25-million small businesses in America is one day you're using one software package and another day you're using the new one, with lots of late nights to follow figurin' it out.
Out of the dozen pieces of software that I use, I've had formal training totalling about two hours on a couple of them. And career-wise, in the probably 30 different programs I've had to use over the years, I can clearly recall getting 'trained' on maybe 4 of them.
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Posted: 05/18/04 - 18:06 Post subject:
I learned our current accounting system by trial and error. Thank goodness for reversing entries
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Posted: 05/18/04 - 18:07 Post subject:
| jrjo wrote: | | nolefan85 wrote: | | Maybe I'm way off base here, but don't companies bring in "trainers" when new software/programs are being introduced? |
Maybe if you work for a Fortune 500 company, but my experience has been in what I've seen of the other 25-million small businesses in America is one day you're using one software package and another day you're using the new one, with lots of late nights to follow figurin' it out.
Out of the dozen pieces of software that I use, I've had formal training totalling about two hours on a couple of them. And career-wise, in the probably 30 different programs I've had to use over the years, I can clearly recall getting 'trained' on maybe 4 of them. |
I get it now. I guess it costs "big bucks" to pay for the training I'm thinking of and it must be very frustrating to go through constant changes with software packages...programs...
Again, I'm sure a lot of it is learned through experience and working late nights to figure it out.
Thanks for the explaination on this. 
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Posted: 05/18/04 - 18:25 Post subject:
| Cappy wrote: | | I learned our current accounting system by trial and error. Thank goodness for reversing entries |
well.. trial and error isn't going to work in a one hour exam that i won't get to see the answer for, or ask questions, or have someone say "hey dumbass your doing it wrong".
considering i've never *seen* an accounting program before, the least they could do is give me a manual or something...
it's school, if i wanted to teach myself i would've put my money in the bank and stayed home. 
and yeah i realize that offices don't always provide you with training for everything... my dad really enjoys training clients, only to have them change depts and then training new people again, and then again, and then again...
i can honestly say i'm not going to be an accountant, but i can't say that i can afford to lose close to 10% of my accounting grade...
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Posted: 05/18/04 - 19:36 Post subject:
In the real world, you may have clean up someone's fuggered up check book.
Where do you start?
It's called trial by fire and the new guy always gets them!
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Posted: 05/18/04 - 20:06 Post subject:
i'm thinking that giving me a packet of information 2 weeks before i have a quiz and expecting me to learn it all w/o instruction and basing 10% of my grade on it is a little harsh.
harsh enough that i think i'm gonna go find a dept head and make a dignified fuss about this insanity.
if i had some guidance, sure - but this is bull.
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