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 Posted: 08/03/02 - 12:51 Post subject: See if you think this is feasible.....
I am still holding out some slim form of hope that I'll be ready to run the full in Madison next May, however I am worried about having my base built back up to the point where I will be able to start a marathon training program. Here's what I am looking at:
--A 16-week marathon program would start the first week of February.
--I am planning to schedule my surgery for the last week of October this year, and looking at a possible 6 week layoff with no running and little cross training other than walking.
--I therefore have three months to rebuild the base mileage (and cross train) I lost having been benched since April, before I go back to the bench in Nov/Dec.
--Assuming I am only out 6 weeks, I then have two weeks in Dec and the month of January to rebuild mileage again before starting the training program in Feb.
Do you think it's possible to get to the point over the next three months that my base is strong enough to withstand a 6-week layoff with only 6 weeks after that to get ready to start the program? If so, what's my best approach from now til Oct to get the mileage back up without overdoing it and getting reinjured?
I am planning three half marathons (Feb, Mar and Apr) as part of the training program, which would represent three long runs at race pace, I don't know whether that makes a difference or not.
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flarunner
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Posted: 08/04/02 - 12:33 Post subject:
Genie, a couple of questions.
#1. Why a 6-week layoff? I know a couple of women who had reduction surgery and about a dozen women who've had augmentation surgery and all of them were out of commision for about 3 to 4 weeks.
#2. Why the little to no cross-training? Again, the above women were on the bikes and stairmasters within two weeks. They just didn't/couldn't move their arms.
OK, now to your question. Yes, it's feasible. I would suggest that you start your marathon training the first of January. Take all of Novemeber and December off (OK, do some cross-training to keep CV fitness), then start with very low mileage both during the week and also for your "long" run. This will give you 20 plus weeks to build up from zero miles.
Part 2: The plan for between now and the surgery should be one of base mileage and consistency. Do what you can do so that you don't re-injure your foot/legs, but don't think that you have to get this massive amount of mileage in before Oct. You know, kinda like the tortoise and the hare. You need to be the tortoise - steady and consistent.
Hopefully some of this helped and doesn't sound like I'm preaching. (I tend to do that when it comes to fitness and running  )
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Posted: 08/04/02 - 12:59 Post subject:
| flarunner wrote: | Genie, a couple of questions.
#1. Why a 6-week layoff? I know a couple of women who had reduction surgery and about a dozen women who've had augmentation surgery and all of them were out of commision for about 3 to 4 weeks.
#2. Why the little to no cross-training? Again, the above women were on the bikes and stairmasters within two weeks. They just didn't/couldn't move their arms.
OK, now to your question. Yes, it's feasible. I would suggest that you start your marathon training the first of January. Take all of Novemeber and December off (OK, do some cross-training to keep CV fitness), then start with very low mileage both during the week and also for your "long" run. This will give you 20 plus weeks to build up from zero miles.
Part 2: The plan for between now and the surgery should be one of base mileage and consistency. Do what you can do so that you don't re-injure your foot/legs, but don't think that you have to get this massive amount of mileage in before Oct. You know, kinda like the tortoise and the hare. You need to be the tortoise - steady and consistent.
Hopefully some of this helped and doesn't sound like I'm preaching. (I tend to do that when it comes to fitness and running ) |
As far as the layoff, that's what my doctor's nurse told me....I am going in on the 15th for the official consult so I'll press him for more specifics then. If you're right then I should be OK. All I know is, no swimming or lifting upper body stuff for 6-8 weeks, and she did say the exercise bike would be OK but not a road bike since you lean over so far. And of course no running because of the impact factor. I hope you're right and she's just being conservative. Stairmaster....YECHHH!!!
That did help a lot, thanks!!! I just know that I don't want to just "finish" in 5 or 6 hours to say I did a marathon. I have no illusions about being really fast, but I'd like to put in a good (for me) effort, so I wanted to go into training with as much mileage in the bank as possible. But you are right about the slow and steady thing, marathon training is tough on a healthy person's body, for someone with CFIDS, the toll is probably going to be higher, so I want to do it right. I can handle the half distance with little to no residual effects, but the Big M has always intimidated me after seeing some of my healthy friends really beat up afterwards.
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Posted: 08/04/02 - 13:59 Post subject:
| genie wrote: | | As far as the layoff, that's what my doctor's nurse told me....I am going in on the 15th for the official consult so I'll press him for more specifics then. If you're right then I should be OK. All I know is, no swimming or lifting upper body stuff for 6-8 weeks, and she did say the exercise bike would be OK but not a road bike since you lean over so far. And of course no running because of the impact factor. I hope you're right and she's just being conservative. Stairmaster....YECHHH!!! |
I know, Stairmasters and inside bikes suck, but you've got to think about the whole time as a rehab. What can you do now to make yourself just that much better when you're able to get out on the roads.
| genie wrote: | | That did help a lot, thanks!!! |
Good. Anything else, let me know.
| genie wrote: | | I just know that I don't want to just "finish" in 5 or 6 hours to say I did a marathon. I have no illusions about being really fast, but I'd like to put in a good (for me) effort, so I wanted to go into training with as much mileage in the bank as possible. But you are right about the slow and steady thing, marathon training is tough on a healthy person's body, for someone with CFIDS, the toll is probably going to be higher, so I want to do it right. |
I read your post on your "6" mile trail run. I've been an asthmatic all my life (yep, since I was an infant). Been on consistent Dr's care since '95 - huge difference in breathing. Would suggest you hook up with an allergist to get some drugs.
If you're smart (and you are) and you're conservative and quality minded with your training (which I know you can be) you should be able to "run" the marathon, not just finish it. Even with your health issues.
| genie wrote: | | I can handle the half distance with little to no residual effects, but the Big M has always intimidated me after seeing some of my healthy friends really beat up afterwards. |
If you can do the half, then you can do the whole. Again, your training needs to focus on making every workout part of the plan that will get you to the finish line in the time you want to finish. And a big part of that is the mental aspect. Think James Brown. "I feel good!"
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Posted: 08/04/02 - 20:05 Post subject:
g finishing a marathon is awesome enough
the first one is for you
any others are to improve on that if you do another
my recommendation...see how you feel...let doc's do their thing
and just wait before you commit to it
it is a huge commitment in time and effort
make your first a good memory you will never forget it
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