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sonnylax
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 Posted: 10/15/04 - 15:05 Post subject: Rapper: Blacks 'cheered when 9-11 happened'
| Quote: | If Osama bin Laden ever buys a rap album, he'll probably start with a CD by KRS-One.
The hip-hop anarchist has declared his solidarity with al-Qaida by asserting that he and other African-Americans "cheered when 9-11 happened," reports the New York Daily News.
The rapper, real name Kris Parker, defiled the memory of those who died in the terrorist attacks as he spouted off at a recent New Yorker Festival panel discussion. advertisement
"I say that proudly," the Boogie Down Productions founder went on, insisting that, before the attack, security guards kept Blacks out of the World Trade Center "because of the way we talk and dress.
"So when the planes hit the building, we were like, 'Mmmm - justice.' "
The atrocity of 9-11 "doesn't affect us the hip-hop community," he said. "9-11 happened to them, not us," he added, explaining that by "them" he meant "the rich ... those who are oppressing us. RCA or BMG, Universal, the radio stations."
Parker also sneered at efforts by other rappers to get young people to vote.
"Voting in a corrupt society adds more corruption," he added. "America has to commit suicide if the world is to be a better place." |
If that doesn't make your stomach turn, I don't know what will.... 3000+ Americans dead on our own soil and it happened to "them" (not us).
http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/1014krs14-ON.html
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sonnylax
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Posted: 10/15/04 - 15:12 Post subject:
I gotta add that I think this is the typical "class warfare" rhetoric that comes from the left. We are all rich or poor, black or white, lucky or unlucky, etc. Last time I checked, we were all Americans. Those are artificial barriers which divide us further (instead of uniting us all as Americans).
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camelia bedelia
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Posted: 10/15/04 - 15:33 Post subject:
| sonnylax wrote: | | I gotta add that I think this is the typical "class warfare" rhetoric that comes from the left. We are all rich or poor, black or white, lucky or unlucky, etc. Last time I checked, we were all Americans. Those are artificial barriers which divide us further (instead of uniting us all as Americans). |
I’m not really sure what your point is here. Obviously for someone to cheer for at 9-11 attacks is reprehensible, but can you really pretend there are no class differences in this country?
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Posted: 10/15/04 - 15:34 Post subject:
Note that this guy is described as the "hip hop anarchist" and he was probably with like minded friends. To say blindly that "African-Americans cheered" is disgusting. My wife, who is black, did not cheer and was absolutely horrified by the attack and remains so to this day. She could also be described as being more "liberal" than "conservative".
KRS-One sounds like he is so far outside the American political spectrum that I would be shocked if his opinion has even marginal acceptance outside his "anarchist" community.
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Posted: 10/15/04 - 15:39 Post subject:
I also think that the rapper was in the extreme minority by cheering for this. There absolutely is an enormous social stratification in this country, but I would never expect a low class to cheer the destruction of a major economic center of the country. It makes absolutely no sense. What is bad for the country is bad for you.
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Posted: 10/15/04 - 15:40 Post subject:
| MechEngDropout wrote: | | I also think that the rapper was in the extreme minority by cheering for this. There absolutely is an enormous social stratification in this country, but I would never expect a low class to cheer the destruction of a major economic center of the country. It makes absolutely no sense. What is bad for the country is bad for you. |
Right, except, of course, if you are an anarchist and feel that all government is wrong and take joy in the destruction of any such government. Of course, then he wouldn't be able to sell his cd's or distribute them, but that's another point.
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sonnylax
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Posted: 10/15/04 - 15:56 Post subject:
Just reporting what comes across my broswer ladies and gents. Not passing judgement on past, present, or future company.
Liberals in general tend to describe themselves in groups. This type of pack mentality is unnecessarily devisive & dangerous. 
P.S. I wonder how much money he could make selling rap CD's in Iraq during Sadaam's reign?
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Posted: 10/16/04 - 11:21 Post subject:
| sonnylax wrote: | Just reporting what comes across my broswer ladies and gents.
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Just because you yourself didn't write the article, sonny it doesn't mean that you're somehow detached from it. Let's make that clear.
I know you've been getting 'slammed' around here lately but the 'don't shoot the messenger' trend is starting to depict something about yourself, no?
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 15:43 Post subject:
| sonnylax wrote: | Just reporting what comes across my broswer ladies and gents. Not passing judgement on past, present, or future company.
Liberals in general tend to describe themselves in groups. This type of pack mentality is unnecessarily devisive & dangerous.
P.S. I wonder how much money he could make selling rap CD's in Iraq during Sadaam's reign? |
You must not know a lot about KRS-1 if you are grouping him in with all liberals. KRS-1 is an extremist political rapper, similar to Public Enemy. While he may belive what he is saying, I don't think that he represents the majority view. More importantly though, I think that it is ridiculous to group him in with "all liberals". He and I couldn't be futher from each other when it comes to our beliefs, and I consider myself a liberal.
I also find it interesting that you say that "liberals in general tend to describe themselves in groups". I have always found that most liberals tend to be very independent thinkers.
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 15:50 Post subject:
| shelflifers wrote: | | sonnylax wrote: | | Just reporting what comes across my broswer ladies and gents. |
Just because you yourself didn't write the article, sonny it doesn't mean that you're somehow detached from it. Let's make that clear.
I know you've been getting 'slammed' around here lately but the 'don't shoot the messenger' trend is starting to depict something about yourself, no? |
Amen, brothah. Just because you see it doesn't mean you have to report it. Selectivity is a good thing. A responsible thing even.
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sonnylax
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 16:02 Post subject:
| shelflifers wrote: |
Just because you yourself didn't write the article, sonny it doesn't mean that you're somehow detached from it. Let's make that clear.
I know you've been getting 'slammed' around here lately but the 'don't shoot the messenger' trend is starting to depict something about yourself, no? |
Obviously, I disagree with you shelfie.
The news items I've reported/linked here on RF.com are in the mainstream media (web, newspaper, etc.). Are we supposed to stick our head in the sand when we come across controversial subjects and act like they didn't happen?
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 17:00 Post subject:
I don't think we should stick our heads in the sand, no.
But I do think that when one person continually displays articles depicting various ethnic groups as having done some terrible thing or another, it says more about that person than it does the groups.
It looks like if someone is from your particular group, you base your assessment on their individual character but if a person is from some group other than yours, you lump the whole group together and make some generalized statements about them. If I'm wrong, forgive me. I'm only telling you what it looks like from the outside.
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 17:03 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: | I don't think we should stick our heads in the sand, no.
But I do think that when one person continually displays articles depicting various ethnic groups as having done some terrible thing or another, it says more about that person than it does the groups.
It looks like if someone is from your particular group, you base your assessment on their individual character but if a person is from some group other than yours, you lump the whole group together and make some generalized statements about them. If I'm wrong, forgive me. I'm only telling you what it looks like from the outside. |
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Posted: 10/18/04 - 18:54 Post subject:
| sonnylax wrote: | Liberals in general tend to describe themselves in groups. This type of pack mentality is unnecessarily devisive & dangerous.
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Liberals describe themselves in groups!? As opposed to goose stepping compassionate conservatives blindly following Rush, Sean Hannity and Neal Boortz?
You found one person who has an extreme view and lump everyone else in the same category as them. Using that justification since most conservative Georgians are strong UGA fans, I expect to see you wearing red and black at the Virginia Tech game, no? 
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Posted: 10/19/04 - 09:01 Post subject:
Sonny does have a point about the groups, but i don't think that is as much a liberal thing as it is a human thing. The "liberal" side is seen to have more minorities who identify themselves as a member of that minority, as well as groups identifying themselves with issues such as pro-choice, gay rights (or just identifying themselves as a homosexual), etc.
I think that is the point that Sonny is making. But, if it is (this is what i'm reading into it), there are the opposite groups on the Conservative side like the Christian Coalition, the NRA, and the pro-life groups.
I think that people in general put themselves into special interest groups because of what issue or topic is most important to them. That's no more liberal than it is conservative, though.
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