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Maddies Wench
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 09:15 Post subject: Poll/Not Poll Swearing/Not Swearing.
Ian has developed the habit of leaving blank syllables where a swear would be.
Example:
Ian, are you ready?
NO! I can't find my MM-mm socks.
So you know what the intent was, but as I said...he's not technically swearing. Is this his intelligent kid finding a way to do something not necessarily illegal, but not approved of either?
Now, my language isn't exactly pristine and neither is his Dad's.
Ignore it?
Discipline it?
Compromise that it's not ok at school?
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keltic63
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 09:33 Post subject:
I'm sure my teenagers use some choice language in their peer groups, but I have never let them use questionable language in front of me. My take on it was this: "you're such an intelligent person, why do you need to use such vulgar language?" and "those words are so much more effective if you rarely use them. That way, when someone hears you say a word that they've never heard you use before, they will know you mean business."
I'm not sure that it actually worked, but I never hear even mild swearing from them. On the other hand, my daughter used the word "sucks" last evening in front of me and I was sorta sidetracked by it
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brie k
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 09:48 Post subject:
Steve makes a lot of sense.
I curse like a sailor. My kids however do not say "bad" words. I've explained to them that I'm just lazy, and that there are always better words to use in place of expletives. Will will ask me (for instance) if he can say "crap" and I say "No, saying crap is like saying sh*t and you're not old enough to use that word." Of course anytime he asks me when he will be old enough to do [x], I say "35." It works on this particular 7 yo for now.
I am really trying to curb my language around the children, having limited success. It's difficult to drop the habit, and I wish I had never gone down this path.
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keltic63
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 09:55 Post subject:
hey brie, try putting your money where your mouth is! get yourself a "swear jar" and pay a quarter every time you let one loose. your kids will be more than happy to help!
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 09:56 Post subject:
My 14 yr old is quite adept at swearing although he doesn't around me - usually. Every once in a while a bleep will slip up. I was very careful with my language around them when they were younger - as they became teenagers I let it slip.
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 10:00 Post subject:
I'd just like to state as a background I worked in a jail for seven years and was in the military for 28. There is NOTHING I have not heard before.
I do not like use of vulgarities when they are really uncalled for. My kids know that - I make them take the Osbornes off or almost any show with too much bleeping. Not needed. On the other hand if there is someone is really upset I can overlook the swearing because its a "legitimate" way of venting.
That said, if my kids hear me swearing a blue streak they know I am terribly upset. I did that on purpose as they were growing up just for that reason.
When the kids were growing up I used to say "putz" instead of other words. It seemed to work. As far as I know, the kids do not use vulgarities lightly.
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Maddies Wench
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 10:10 Post subject:
| keltic63 wrote: | hey brie, try putting your money where your mouth is! get yourself a "swear jar" and pay a quarter every time you let one loose. your kids will be more than happy to help! |
I think that we can do this as a family. Swear jar. yeah.
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 10:19 Post subject: yeah.. it's a pet peeve o' mine
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brie k
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 10:23 Post subject:
| Maddie's Wench wrote: | | keltic63 wrote: | hey brie, try putting your money where your mouth is! get yourself a "swear jar" and pay a quarter every time you let one loose. your kids will be more than happy to help! |
I think that we can do this as a family. Swear jar. yeah. |
This is a good idea. I do have a change jar already though, it's getting pretty full. Just start a new one I guess?
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ShannonG
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Posted: 04/30/04 - 10:29 Post subject:
I agree with Steve; the very best way to keep your kids from swearing is to lead by example. As they get older, the rules loosen up a bit. I let a 10-12 year old occasionally say 'that sucks' and crap is occasionally alright too. Never acceptable for anyone younger, and 'I hate that' is a big no no around here too, because it's not much of a leap to 'I hate him'.
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