Painting and the Dog advice needed...
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shelflifers
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 Posted: 12/18/03 - 13:45 Post subject: Painting and the Dog advice needed...
Two issues at the shelf house:
Issue UNO:
We're painting the kitchen right now. Just did the walls. Now it's time for the trim. We're noticing that when we pull off the tape that some of the paint has run down into the trim. I know lots of you have a bunch of painting experience so I'm hoping you can supply some of your precious 411 for a brotha...
How, I ask...HOW do we get that perfect straight line between the two colors (between the trim and the wall)...
(and yes, the color of the walls is 'mantie-red')
Issue TWO:
The Pips has been using the wife's legs as a chew toy lately and the problem is getting worse. Her "NO's!!!!" do nothing and I'm trying to tell her to grab Pips, shake her violently and dropkick her into the backyard but she won't do it??? Ok, actually, I tell her to grab her, and clamp her mouth shut and scream NO to her. She thinks it's mean. I think you HAVE to do it.
Advice? issues? Should I leave my wife? Should I leave Pippi? Should I leave them both and move to Alberta, Canada to start my up a Fish Bait shop?
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robp
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Posted: 12/18/03 - 13:49 Post subject:
I never taped the trim - I used a plastic edger. It's a device that you hold up along the trim to cover it while you paint right up against it. A little practice and you don't need to tape any more.
As for the dog.... every time it bites i'd whack it's butt just enough to for it to know it's being punished, say NO! and then lock it in it's cage for a few doggy timeout minutes.
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Posted: 12/18/03 - 13:50 Post subject:
Issue one: use tape, and take it off quickly, and wipe up all spills before they dry permanently.
Issue two: Your wife needs to be tougher. The dog obviously doesn't respect her. You should see our dog run for it when the Mrs. yells his name. He runs and hides.
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airehead
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Posted: 12/18/03 - 13:52 Post subject:
| robp wrote: | I never taped the trim - I used a plastic edger. It's a device that you hold up along the trim to cover it while you paint right up against it. A little practice and you don't need to tape any more.
As for the dog.... every time it bites i'd whack it's butt just enough to for it to know it's being punished, say NO! and then lock it in it's cage for a few doggy timeout minutes. |
Good advice Rob! You have to establish that Joy is ahead of her in the pack. She sees Joy as a packmate and plays rough with her. Edited to add: if you use the cage during the day, I wouldn't use it as a place of punishment. I would banish Pippi to another room--or out of yours and Joy's sight. (She wants company, and to be separated will be punishment)
Another thing: when you know Pippi is likely to start chewing on Joy, rub the spot with some chili powder, enough to get the flavor. And, unless she's a complete freak like my dog, it should get the message across.
Another thing: when she starts biting redirect her to something equally as yummy for her to chew on. She's still a puppy, so she'll be easily distracted.
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Posted: 12/18/03 - 13:53 Post subject:
No painting advice as I assume you want it to look nice.
As far as Pips...what Coach says. Your wife needs to prove she's the boss. A good no, give her a chew toy that isn't human when she's nipping. Is she teething? Ice is wonderful if she is. Teething makes them so onery and cranky. Have you wife do some obedience with her. Make her sit, lay down, let her feed the pup. Make sure she goes out of any door way before her.
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elkid
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Posted: 12/18/03 - 13:54 Post subject:
Issue #1: Yes, the paint will drip. They make these plastic thingies that look like large spackle spreaders (looked on homedepot.com but couldn't find one; sorry) that you hold up against the wall with one hand as you paint the trim with the other. It's tedious, but works wonderfully. From experience I tell you to wipe it clean every time you inch it over on the wall. Otherwise you'll have to retouch the wall color with a teeny tiny brush, and that's no fun.
Issue #2: Alberta's too cold. Canookians are also very wishwashy - stay where you are. Firmly hold her mouth closed, but say "NO!" in a stern voice, not a shout.
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Posted: 12/18/03 - 13:54 Post subject:
I use a thingie like this to paint against and not have to mess with tape. Just hold it tight to the trim and paint right up to it. Wipe it off every so often to keep it from getting drippy (great use for old putrid running shirts).
On the pup, I know this will sound goofy, but one "wolf pack" lesson we read once was to actually give a yelp when a puppy bites. It lets the dog know in their words they've hurt ya. Then proceed with the bootkick into the backyard. 
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Posted: 12/18/03 - 13:56 Post subject:
| robp wrote: | I never taped the trim - I used a plastic edger. It's a device that you hold up along the trim to cover it while you paint right up against it. A little practice and you don't need to tape any more.
As for the dog.... every time it bites i'd whack it's butt just enough to for it to know it's being punished, say NO! and then lock it in it's cage for a few doggy timeout minutes. |
ONE.
Also when my dog was a pup I got a How to train your dog for Dummies book. It sounds corny but the stuff in there musta worked my dog listens remarkably well.
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Posted: 12/18/03 - 14:00 Post subject:
I'd go with rob on the plasic edger. Also, if you've got really detailed, smaller surfaces and you don't want overlapping colors (for example, I just finished painting a wine rack shaped like a large fish to resemble a dolphin fish, and getting the colors to not drip/run on the wire rack/edges was tough) try using an eyeshadow brush. I'm not joking. It's a pain but it works. You can pick them up cheap if you buy the generic ones at the local drugstore in the cosmetics aisle. Or, Joy might have some leftover from makeup counter "bonus" giveaways that are lying around; I did.
Joy needs to be tougher on the dog. Yelling no at him and putting him in 'time-out" briefly is not mean; it teaches him whose boss. Dogs need to know that the people are the "alpha" dogs in the pack; not them. Believe me, Sierra (our dog) has spent quite a bit of time in "jail" to get over her habit of jumping up on people.
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shelflifers
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Posted: 12/18/03 - 14:03 Post subject:
WHY DIDN'T I ASK THIS ADVICE BEFORE I PAINTED THE WALLS!!!!!!!!!!
But thanks everybody. Here's the sitch. The walls were painted yesterday. We ripped some tape off this morning and noticed the paint runnings..
So although all of your advice is excellent, it's too late...hmm....
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As for Pips, you're right, she doesn't respect the wife, and Joy is too nice of a person to grab pippi..."I can't do that! That's mean!!!" is her response.
We'd like to lock her in a room but she scratches the HELL out of our doors when we do that. And, like aire said, we can't put her in her crate cuz you don't want to associate her crate with punishment (she sleeps in there everyday).
And the redirecting works sometimes, but you should see her! She really gets all psycho and attacks Joy 
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Posted: 12/18/03 - 14:07 Post subject:
| shelflifers wrote: | WHY DIDN'T I ASK THIS ADVICE BEFORE I PAINTED THE WALLS!!!!!!!!!!
But thanks everybody. Here's the sitch. The walls were painted yesterday. We ripped some tape off this morning and noticed the paint runnings..
So although all of your advice is excellent, it's too late...hmm....
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As for Pips, you're right, she doesn't respect the wife, and Joy is too nice of a person to grab pippi..."I can't do that! That's mean!!!" is her response.
We'd like to lock her in a room but she scratches the HELL out of our doors when we do that. And, like aire said, we can't put her in her crate cuz you don't want to associate her crate with punishment (she sleeps in there everyday).
And the redirecting works sometimes, but you should see her! She really gets all psycho and attacks Joy |
Then Joy really needs to take her to obedience classes.
If not anytime soon, here's a theory that worked with my dog in establishing who was the boss:
Make Pippi EARN everything. From petting, to treats, to up on the couch, to attention from Joy.
Whatever trick she knows, make her do that before she gets anything. Make her sit for her dinner, make her sit for her treats, make her sit before getting on the couch. And Joy should be doing this with Pippi.
Also, to establish pack, Joy should be feeding Pippi. It really worked to let Colin feed our two huge dogs because they weren't respecting his place in the pack--once he started feeding them, and making them sit/lay down before they got dinner, really taught them that he was higher in the pecking order.
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shelflifers
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Posted: 12/18/03 - 14:13 Post subject:
Excellent advice!
I just realized that we have a smaller crate downstairs that I can use as 'Jail!'.
Also, we're planning on taking her to obedience classes sometime after Christmas...(she DID pass her kindergarten class though!) 
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Posted: 12/18/03 - 16:17 Post subject:
Shelfie,
Painting, good luck I can't stand it.
As far as young pipi goes. You can have your wife establish dominance but flipping pipi on her back and holding her there, making eye contact with the dog. It really does work great. Whenever my pooch disobeys on a grand level I pin her like that. Even while on walks. Having her hit the dog, may cause the dog to associate hitting with joy but pining her is a clear sign of dominance. Good luck!
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Posted: 12/18/03 - 16:20 Post subject:
Our Max used to act psycho when he was tired as a pup. We'd put him in his crate for a nap and he'd crash for a bit. It wasn't a punishment, it was permission for him to sleep without all the stimulation of us, the other dogs, cats etc... Use the other crate and see what happens.
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Posted: 12/18/03 - 17:43 Post subject:
Most dog paintings involve some type of card game.
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