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purple hayes
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 Posted: 01/23/03 - 10:03 Post subject: Now there's two carjackers that will think twice next time..
http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/metro/gwinnett/0103/23shooter.html
| Quote: | A pedestrian who shot at carjacking suspects in Lilburn Tuesday may not face criminal charges, authorities said.
"It is illegal for citizens to take the law into their own hands," District Attorney Danny Porter said. "There are only certain circumstances that a citizen can use deadly force."
Whether Tuesday's shootout in Lilburn will be one of those situations will be investigated by his office, Porter said.
A citizen who legitimately believes that someone will cause death or serious bodily harm to them can legally use deadly force, Porter said.
"I have not received the report on this incident but I've been told that the [suspect's] car swerved to hit the person," Porter said. "It could well be that he had a reason to believe that he needed to use deadly force."
Police have not released the name of the pedestrian who shot and struck the vehicle of the fleeing suspects. The carjacking suspects were not injured [PH note: that's too bad], and the pedestrian will not be charged by Lilburn police, Lilburn Lt. Donny Kelly said.
"He felt like his life was in danger," Kelly said. "He gave us great information about what direction the suspects had gone. All the witnesses were very helpful, and without their help we probably wouldn't have known where the suspects were."
Oracio Villa Gomez, 20, and Alexander Legon Diaz, 26, have been charged with carjacking, aggravated assault, burglary and obstruction of a police officer.
The incident began about 9 a.m. Tuesday when the two men allegedly tried to steal the Corvette of a woman at Cole's service station on Lawrenceville Highway.
While fleeing in an SUV, Gomez and Diaz tried to hit two pedestrians, but missed, Kelly said. One of the pedestrians shot at the suspects' vehicle.
Ray Cole, owner of Cole's service station, said the shooter had no choice.
"They were not only trying to run him over, one of the guys was leaning out the window pointing a gun at the guy," Cole said. "If he didn't shoot at the guys, he would have been killed."
Cole said once the suspects' vehicle drove by and entered Lawrenceville Highway, the pedestrian stopped shooting.
"He was solid," Cole said. "He stopped shooting when the car went into traffic and other people could have been hit. Then the [suspects'] car crashed into a BellSouth van."
Gomez and Diaz were not wounded, [PH note: again, that's too bad] but they crashed into two or three vehicles on Lawrenceville Highway and then fled on foot, Kelly said. Lilburn police captured the suspects nearby. While running away, one of the men shot at a driver in a passing car, Kelly said.
Lilburn Mayor Scott Batterton said the pedestrian is a hero.
"I feel that reaction is fine for a citizen that is well-trained in firearms and feels that his life or property is in danger," said Batterton.
"I'm glad that this citizen was in the city of Lilburn. He deserves a commendation." |
This took place within a few miles of where I work.
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copteacher
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Posted: 01/23/03 - 10:07 Post subject:
One for the good guys. People wonder why I am against taking guns away from decent people. Good for the unnamed dude. He may get dude of the week for that.
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airehead
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Posted: 01/23/03 - 11:14 Post subject:
| rtpd113 wrote: | | One for the good guys. People wonder why I am against taking guns away from decent people. Good for the unnamed dude. He may get dude of the week for that. |
Big Fat 1.
PH--are you trying to tell us you're the "unnamed dude" since this happened by your work???
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purple hayes
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Posted: 01/23/03 - 11:15 Post subject:
| airehead wrote: | | rtpd113 wrote: | | One for the good guys. People wonder why I am against taking guns away from decent people. Good for the unnamed dude. He may get dude of the week for that. |
Big Fat 1.
PH--are you trying to tell us you're the "unnamed dude" since this happened by your work??? |
Nope, I'm only accurate with a super soaker.
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Posted: 01/23/03 - 13:39 Post subject:
Great job unnamed pedistrian. Its a shame the losers weren't killed.
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purple hayes
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Posted: 01/23/03 - 16:55 Post subject:
Looks like the vigilantes are getting fed up with being victims! http://news.mysanantonio.com/story.cfm?xla=saen&xlb=180&xlc=928682
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Salon robber gets $100, credit cards, scissor cut
By Manny Gonzales
San Antonio Express-News
Web Posted : 01/23/2003 12:00 AM
A daring hairstylist stabbed a gun-wielding robber in the back with a pair of scissors Wednesday night at her Northwest Side salon, then ducked as he shot at her.
With 20-20 hindsight, Lia Austin said she wouldn't recommend that anyone do what she did at her hair studio in the 6300 block of Wurzbach Road. She's concerned that she could be a target for revenge because police were unable to find the robber after he fled on foot.
"We gave him everything we had, but he started insulting us and screaming," Austin said. "So I stabbed him."
The robber, wearing a black ski mask, dark coat and tan pants, entered the salon just after 7 p.m. He was described as Hispanic, 5 feet 7 inches tall, weighing about 160 pounds.
He stole one customer's wallet, another's credit cards and money from the cash register. As he leaned over a counter to reach for a drawer, Austin went after him with the shears.
"I had the scissors in my hand already and thought it was a good opportunity to get him because he was pointing the gun down," she said. "I just had the adrenaline in me; I wasn't thinking."
With shears poking through his jacket, the robber squeezed off a shot that hit a display case before his gun jammed and he ran out of the business.
A helicopter and K-9 officers helped comb the neighborhood, to no avail.
He left with a little more than $100 and a hole in the back, San Antonio police Sgt. Domingo Alcala said.
"She's a gutsy lady," Alcala said. "I think it was a reflex action on her part and that she now realizes it wasn't the smartest thing to do." [/b] |
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Posted: 01/23/03 - 18:13 Post subject:
| purple hayes wrote: | Looks like the vigilantes are getting fed up with being victims! http://news.mysanantonio.com/story.cfm?xla=saen&xlb=180&xlc=928682
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Salon robber gets $100, credit cards, scissor cut
By Manny Gonzales
San Antonio Express-News
Web Posted : 01/23/2003 12:00 AM
A daring hairstylist stabbed a gun-wielding robber in the back with a pair of scissors Wednesday night at her Northwest Side salon, then ducked as he shot at her.
With 20-20 hindsight, Lia Austin said she wouldn't recommend that anyone do what she did at her hair studio in the 6300 block of Wurzbach Road. She's concerned that she could be a target for revenge because police were unable to find the robber after he fled on foot.
"We gave him everything we had, but he started insulting us and screaming," Austin said. "So I stabbed him."
The robber, wearing a black ski mask, dark coat and tan pants, entered the salon just after 7 p.m. He was described as Hispanic, 5 feet 7 inches tall, weighing about 160 pounds.
He stole one customer's wallet, another's credit cards and money from the cash register. As he leaned over a counter to reach for a drawer, Austin went after him with the shears.
"I had the scissors in my hand already and thought it was a good opportunity to get him because he was pointing the gun down," she said. "I just had the adrenaline in me; I wasn't thinking."
With shears poking through his jacket, the robber squeezed off a shot that hit a display case before his gun jammed and he ran out of the business.
A helicopter and K-9 officers helped comb the neighborhood, to no avail.
He left with a little more than $100 and a hole in the back, San Antonio police Sgt. Domingo Alcala said.
"She's a gutsy lady," Alcala said. "I think it was a reflex action on her part and that she now realizes it wasn't the smartest thing to do." [/b] |
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Did this happen near your workplace as well?Note to shelf: Do not commit crimes in PH's neck of the woods!!
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Posted: 01/23/03 - 18:44 Post subject:
| akern wrote: | | Did this happen near your workplace as well?Note to shelf: Do not commit crimes in PH's neck of the woods!! |
Nope, that happened in San Antonio, TX. That's Alan's neck of the woods.
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