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coachmarkos
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 Posted: 11/05/04 - 10:17 Post subject: Network Winners and Losers...
Watching the election night returns...if you flipped around like I did, you definately got a different flavor for as to what was going on.
1. MSNBC did a nice job, and wasn't afraid to pick Ohio when it was evident that it was going to go to bush.
2. FoxNews they are biased, I admit...but they at least seemed to cover what was going on.
3. ABC...to be honest, I watched them the least...so I don't have much of a sample.
4. CNN...they would be last, except for the fact that Carville was on there, and he said the election was lost. For Pete's sake, I thought the woman(Woodward?) was gonna cry when the Florida votes came in.
5. CBS...I grew up a CBS watcher, and a Dan Rather fan. Boy oh Boy, they seemed like they were really pulling for something to change, anything.
Again, this is just my humble opinion, as I sat out here in South Dakota, and flipped around watching returns come in. I obviously couldn't see everything, because I'm not omnipotent.
What did you see?
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Cappy
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 10:36 Post subject:
I flipped around between Fox, MSNBC (thank Alan), CBS, PBS, and ABC. I wasn't paying much attention to commentary, more interested in the results. I also was sitting at the computer bouncing around to the various sites as well
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thegman
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 10:41 Post subject:
I flipped between Fox and MSNBC, but as the night wore on, I added CBS just to see how Dan Rather was handling things.
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jrjo
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 10:53 Post subject:
I stuck with ABC mostly, Stephanopolous is really quite good. I disliked him 12-yrs ago as part of the Clinton cabinet, but now that he's had network news experience, he's decent. Plus George Will is always good too.
I also flipped to CBS for the occasional look at Dan and his goofiness. I googled up his quotes from the night. Somebody, please, find him a retirement home! NOW!
| Quote: | Quotes from CBS Anchor Dan Rather on Election Night 2004
"Do you hear that knocking...President Bush's re-election is at the door."
"This race is hotter than the Devil's anvil."
"His lead is as thin as turnip soup."
"This race is humming along like Ray Charles."
"The presidential race is swinging like Count Basie."
"This race is hotter than a Times Square Rolex."
"Ohio becomes like a sauna for the two candidates. All they can do is wait and sweat."
"One's reminded of that old saying, 'Don't taunt the alligator until after you've crossed the creek.'"
"Bush is sweeping through the South like a big wheel through a cotton field."
"What Kerry needs at this point is the equivalent of Tom Brady coming off the bench to rescue him. But it's still too close to call."
"No question now that Kerry's rapidly reaching the point where he's got his back to the wall, his shirttails on fire and the bill collector's at the door."
"John Kerry needs something on the order of a 55 or 60-yard field goal to win this."
(To Joe Lockhart) "I know that you'd rather walk through a furnace in a gasoline suit than consider the possibility that John Kerry would lose Ohio."
(To Joe Lockhart) "What about Michigan? It's been out there for a long time. Is that making your fingernails sweat?"
"This presidential race has been crackling like a hickory fire for at least the last hour and a half."
"Let's see where it goes from here. Round and round it goes, where it stops nobody knows."
"We keep talking about Ohio if you've been tuning in and out or you put the baby to bed or you went to pop the cap on an adult, or otherwise, beverage..."
"We used to say if a frog had side pockets, he'd carry a handgun."
"No one is saying that George Bush is not going to win the election, and if you had to bet the double-wide, you'd have to bet that he'd win."
"In southern states they beat him like a rented mule."
"If you try to read the tea leaves before the cup is done you can get yourself burned."
"We need Billy Crystal to Analyze This"
"You know that old song, 'it's delightful, it's delicious, it's de-lovely' for President Bush in most areas of the country."
"We had a slight hitch in our giddy up, but we corrected that."
"In some ways, George Bush's lead is as thin as November ice."
"Put on a cup of coffee, this race isn't going to be over for a while."
"You look at the map and say it's all a big Bush victory. But this is one time when your Mother is right, looks can be deceiving."
"John Kerry's moon has just moved behind a cloud, as far as Florida is concerned."
On Kerry's chances: "To use a metaphor, he's gotta draw to an inside straight. But hey, sometimes you get lucky and hit that straight."
"Is it like a swan, with every feather above the water settled, but under the water paddling like crazy?"
"What you have here is the football equivalent of a fourth quarter rally by Kerry."
The election is "closer than Lassie and Timmy"
"Keep in mind they are teetotally meetmortally convinced they have Ohio won."
"Vice President Dick Cheney would not have flown all the way out there (Hawaii) overnight and put that lei around his neck and sort of hula-danced, if you will, unless he thought there was a chance of carrying that out there."
"President Bush smiling there with his family. He's laid down aces so far."
"You can almost hear the GOP (deep breathing sound). We're getting within maybe smelling distance."
"We don't know what to do. We don't know whether to wind a watch or bark at the moon."
On how the results are affecting strategists: "It's one reason so many of them drink a lot."
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), on being congratulated on victory by Rather: "Thanks Dan, I always believe you." Rather: "Now, ladies and gentleman, if you believe that, you'll believe rocks can grow." |
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 11:01 Post subject:
I flipped between Fox and MSNBC - mostly because they are right next to each other on the remote.... They both did a pretty decent job but it seemed the folks at MSNBC were a bit dismayed as the night wore on.
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 11:07 Post subject:
Watched mostly Fox, with some ABC & MSNBC occassionally. I flipped over to CBS to hear a few of those Rather-isms. He is definitely losing it. I don't know if thinks he is actually funny or not.
My favorite was this one:
""One's reminded of that old saying, 'Don't taunt the alligator until after you've crossed the creek.'" "
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Posted: 11/05/04 - 14:45 Post subject:
I kept it on CBS to laugh at Dan Rather.
Kenneth, what's the frequency?
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Posted: 11/06/04 - 08:48 Post subject:
I was switching up and down.
I was on the foxnews website mostly too because they were constantly updating. Yet I was all over the web too. I realized that W probably won because different news organizations called different states.
Interesting too is that Fox had W with 269 EV...I cracked up at that.
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