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camelia bedelia
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 Posted: 09/06/05 - 13:17 Post subject: Is this disaster working out well for those that lost everyt
Barbara Bush at the Astrodome yesterday –
"What I'm hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality," she said during a radio interview with the American Public Media program "Marketplace." "And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them."
So is this all really a blessing in disguise for the evacuees?
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Ms. Jenn
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Posted: 09/06/05 - 13:20 Post subject:
For some, it just might be. Especially those without a job that now have jobs in the state of Texas. Having a clean bed and three meals is better than the squalor they lived in and not sure if they would get a next meal. Have you actually seen some of the homes in Downtown New Orleans?
For those close to the middle class line and above, it's pure hell. I can't imagine having to live in a big shelter like that.
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prohemp
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Posted: 09/06/05 - 13:30 Post subject:
I'd have to say no it's not. There may be cases where it is...but on the surface I'd say no.
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Posted: 09/06/05 - 13:42 Post subject:
I believe that blessings can be found, even in the most dire of circumstances.
I also believe that it would be best for Barbara Bush to refrain from social commentary as she might be a little out of touch.
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robp
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Posted: 09/06/05 - 13:55 Post subject:
| TOsteve wrote: | I believe that blessings can be found, even in the most dire of circumstances.
I also believe that it would be best for Barbara Bush to refrain from social commentary as she might be a little out of touch. |
Said the guy from Canada..... 
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TOsteve
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Posted: 09/06/05 - 14:11 Post subject:
| robp wrote: |
Said the guy from Canada..... |
They don't call us socialists for nothin'. 
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Posted: 09/06/05 - 14:17 Post subject:
| TOsteve wrote: | | robp wrote: |
Said the guy from Canada..... |
They don't call us socialists for nothin'. |
I've found most Canajuns to be pretty sociable.
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camelia bedelia
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Posted: 09/06/05 - 16:46 Post subject:
| Ms. Jenn wrote: | For some, it just might be. Especially those without a job that now have jobs in the state of Texas. Having a clean bed and three meals is better than the squalor they lived in and not sure if they would get a next meal. Have you actually seen some of the homes in Downtown New Orleans?
For those close to the middle class line and above, it's pure hell. I can't imagine having to live in a big shelter like that. |
I don't know. I say unless you are already homeless, it couldn't be better (and even then it's questionable). The home of the "underprivileged" may not seem like much to us, but I would bet most people would prefer to be in their homes, with all their own things to being dumped in a unfamilar city with your family scattered to the wind. I have to believe it's pure hell for most of the people there, not just the middle class.
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Posted: 09/06/05 - 20:39 Post subject:
| camelia bedelia wrote: | | Ms. Jenn wrote: | For some, it just might be. Especially those without a job that now have jobs in the state of Texas. Having a clean bed and three meals is better than the squalor they lived in and not sure if they would get a next meal. Have you actually seen some of the homes in Downtown New Orleans?
For those close to the middle class line and above, it's pure hell. I can't imagine having to live in a big shelter like that. |
I don't know. I say unless you are already homeless, it couldn't be better (and even then it's questionable). The home of the "underprivileged" may not seem like much to us, but I would bet most people would prefer to be in their homes, with all their own things to being dumped in a unfamilar city with your family scattered to the wind. I have to believe it's pure hell for most of the people there, not just the middle class. |
I agree, that's what they'd prefer...some are trying to get back right now. The point is that it may be better for them to move on, in the long run. how would you know if you don't try????
My aunt lost everything in WWII family, home, etc, and was violently raped to boot. Did she want to leave Berlin. no, it was everything she knew. Things must have went okay, she's never returned. In the long run, she's fared quite well. The circumstances were very similar. some church in Bumfuk WI paid for her to voyage to America and she lived with strangers.
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camelia bedelia
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Posted: 09/06/05 - 20:50 Post subject:
| runaroundsue wrote: | | camelia bedelia wrote: | | Ms. Jenn wrote: | For some, it just might be. Especially those without a job that now have jobs in the state of Texas. Having a clean bed and three meals is better than the squalor they lived in and not sure if they would get a next meal. Have you actually seen some of the homes in Downtown New Orleans?
For those close to the middle class line and above, it's pure hell. I can't imagine having to live in a big shelter like that. |
I don't know. I say unless you are already homeless, it couldn't be better (and even then it's questionable). The home of the "underprivileged" may not seem like much to us, but I would bet most people would prefer to be in their homes, with all their own things to being dumped in a unfamilar city with your family scattered to the wind. I have to believe it's pure hell for most of the people there, not just the middle class. |
I agree, that's what they'd prefer...some are trying to get back right now. The point is that it may be better for them to move on, in the long run. how would you know if you don't try????
My aunt lost everything in WWII family, home, etc, and was violently raped to boot. Did she want to leave Berlin. no, it was everything she knew. Things must have went okay, she's never returned. In the long run, she's fared quite well. The circumstances were very similar. some church in Bumfuk WI paid for her to voyage to America and she lived with strangers. |
Talking long term, sure, it may be a new start for people and may lead them on to better things, but I would bet for an equal number, those who were on the brink of making it or not (not just poor, but middle class), this will be the event that spirals their life downward.
However things turn out for these people years in the future, I can't imagine they feels it's "working well" for them right now.
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Posted: 09/06/05 - 21:04 Post subject:
So underpriveleged people don't experience happyness in their lives?
Well then, give them all a Toyota Camry, a 3/2 house and some debt and watch em LIVE for once!!!
woo hoo!
BARBARA IN 2008!!
Oh, and on a serious note, these sad evacuees in Texas don't even know what state they're in. Seriously. All that they're concerned about is finding their close friends and family members.
Truth or not, it was a RIDICULOUS comment.
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Posted: 09/06/05 - 21:14 Post subject:
Just remember where a lot of these people are coming from, run down apartments, infested with cockroaches, low paying jobs in high crime areas with no way out. I know the type, my wife has family in that situation. Perhaps for some this was a blessing in disguise, a way out, to start fresh, something they would not or could not have done if Katrina turned west or east.
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Posted: 09/06/05 - 21:21 Post subject:
| monk25 wrote: | | Just remember where a lot of these people are coming from, run down apartments, infested with cockroaches, low paying jobs in high crime areas with no way out. I know the type, my wife has family in that situation. Perhaps for some this was a blessing in disguise, a way out, to start fresh, something they would not or could not have done if Katrina turned west or east. |
kind of like a battered wife that gets out because some relatives physically remover her.
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Posted: 09/06/05 - 21:22 Post subject:
| runaroundsue wrote: | | monk25 wrote: | | Just remember where a lot of these people are coming from, run down apartments, infested with cockroaches, low paying jobs in high crime areas with no way out. I know the type, my wife has family in that situation. Perhaps for some this was a blessing in disguise, a way out, to start fresh, something they would not or could not have done if Katrina turned west or east. |
kind of like a battered wife that gets out because some relatives physically remover her. |
Yes, that is a perfect way to put it.
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camelia bedelia
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Posted: 09/06/05 - 21:25 Post subject:
But you are making the assumption that just because these people were poor, they had miserable lives. That is what I find offensive about Bab's comments.
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