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TreKay
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 11:58 Post subject:
useless?? Hmmm makes a nice difference on my wife's paycheck!!!!!!!!!!!
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Noley
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 12:09 Post subject:
I don't know??
My ex has an MBA from UoP now and is doing quite well with it. He has that extra degree that won't prevent him from moving more up the career ladder (which is very selective at his level now). Believe me, they'll weed you out and not select you without that MBA.
I have a good friend who graduated from FSU with a BS degree and went straight on to UCF for his MBA. He says he uses both degrees and it was well worth his time. He's had a good job for 16 years and needed both for what he does.
If I were to go back and get my Master's Degree in Education, I know I'd benefit from it. I do want to do this one day and will. I think it's all a matter of your expertise, devotion to a job and ability to be knowledgeble in what you do?
Just my
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 12:13 Post subject:
| RangerG wrote: | Let's not forget that at least with the Harvard MBA Program...none of the Professors have any real work experience either, and thus the trend is propigated....
We have an MBA VP who is working very hard....to run the company into the ground...  |
you know we ought to start a coup run by engineers and programmers!
Are you thinking what I'm thinking Pinky?
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 12:13 Post subject:
I agree.
I got mine 6 years after getting out of undergrad.
I remember thinking that people that went straight to MBA school without first working were probably missing out on a lot of the information.
That isn't true with all Masters degrees, but the MBA is one where having at least some work place experience is going to make your educational experience more beneficial.
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Noley
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 12:18 Post subject:
I will say that it is probably more beneficial for those who have had work experience first, so they can fine tune what they want out of their MBA programs. However, I think there are people out there very career focused who will do what it takes to receive that degree and make something of it.
There are people out there who are goal setters, who make things happen. I for one would have done so had I had the opportunity to continue on in my education to get my Masters Degree. It's all a matter of what a person sets forth for themselves.
I REALLY WANTED TO STAY AT FSU AND GET THAT MASTERS! I'm still mad that I didn't have the opportunity to and I'll be in my 50's before I get one!
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 12:23 Post subject:
I've been in the workforce for 8 years since graduating, and I'm planning on going back for my MBA, just now.
Granted, it wasn't even a consideration when I graduated, but from everything I've heard, it helps a lot to have some experience first.
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MechEngDropout
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 12:23 Post subject:
Is it just me, or is MBA the easiest post-graduate degree to get? Freaking everyone has one or is getting one.
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 12:35 Post subject:
| MechEngDropout wrote: | | Is it just me, or is MBA the easiest post-graduate degree to get? Freaking everyone has one or is getting one. |
It's just you.
MBAs are not easy. No post-graduate work is easy. Otherwise they'd call it post-graduate play, and you'll notice that hasn't caught on yet.
Seriously. You might know a lot of people getting one but it's relatively few people in America have advanced degrees.
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Noley
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 12:36 Post subject:
More useless??
Don't take this the wrong way anyone...but there's nothing more useless to me than to see young women about to graduate from college who snicker and giggle about the fact that they are one day going to have their BS and MRS degrees in another couple of months. This happened when I was in college 16 years ago where I knew a few friends who were all set to get married as soon as they got their degree and never use their degrees at all! That used to infuriate me to hear this, because the College of Ed program was very select with the students they let in and there were lists of students who had to wait...put their degree on hold. Then to hear these girls say, "Oh...I'm getting married...I'll stay at home, have babies and never work...tee hee hee". OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!
So 16 years later, as I stand in a teacher's workroom, I hear two student teachers snickering over the same plans that they have and details of their weddings and their so called "happily ever after" where they'll never use the degree they get from ASU for one day.
What's up with that??? Why? Why waste the money? Why waste the time?? I have considered taking on a student teacher one day to guide into this profession of mine, but I by no means want some cutesie girl in here who has no intention of using their degree WASTING MY TIME!!!
And let me tell you. I set out from college telling myself I had to learn to work in this world to be able to always fall back on myself if I ever had to. Therefore I got a job right out of college and thankfully learned to support myself. Was married...worked more full time somewhere else...had kids...was a SAHM...and then decided to get divorced. Guess what?? Those "happily ever after" plans don't always pan out and I knew I had the smarts to do what it took to get out on my own. That college degree and job experience came in handy in my current situation and I'm so thankful I didn't adopt this "Tee hee hee MRS Degree" mentality that I saw in 1989 and that I see today.
So, what's a waste in my book???
College graduate women who go out and seek their MRS degrees who never use the actual degree they worked for!!!
I hope to teach my daughters to do the same as I.
OK. I'll get off my soap box for now.
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 12:46 Post subject:
Interesting points, nolefan.
Please expand.
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 12:49 Post subject:
| Runner X wrote: | Interesting points, nolefan.
Please expand. |
Sorry. Recess is nearly over and I don't have the time to say anything else on how I feel. One of those MRS girls are on recess duty right now and are about to send the kids in!
Does anyone else feel this way???
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 12:49 Post subject:
Noley, do you think being educated is a bad thing?
While I agree with you that it's not the best mentality to have (yay I'll marry and never have to get a real job), there's nothing wrong with them going to college. I'd much rather people be educated and not use it than remain ignorant.
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 12:52 Post subject:
| Gogirlgo wrote: |
It's just you.
MBAs are not easy. No post-graduate work is easy. Otherwise they'd call it post-graduate play, and you'll notice that hasn't caught on yet.
Seriously. You might know a lot of people getting one but it's easy to remember how relatively few people in America have advanced degrees. |
Masters in Education isn't that tough
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 12:53 Post subject:
| MechEngDropout wrote: | | Is it just me, or is MBA the easiest post-graduate degree to get? Freaking everyone has one or is getting one. |
Not everyone has one. Believe me. And G3 is right, it ain't all fun and games.
<rant>I work at a place where they aren't important because nobody other than the CEO has one. So clearly, they are useless.</rant>
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Posted: 04/13/05 - 12:57 Post subject:
Honestly, I don't think that I learned very much from my MBA. Basically it just made me more marketable. Took me three years while working full time. Was not fun or easy.
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