If I wanted to find religion (hypothetical question)
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MechEngDropout
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 Posted: 02/13/06 - 13:48 Post subject:
| airehead wrote: | | A similar book: The Case for Faith by Lee Strobel is a great read. |
Very popular book. We were almost constantly sold out, but mostly because some local catholic schools required it.
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Posted: 02/13/06 - 13:49 Post subject:
| MechEngDropout wrote: | | airehead wrote: | | A similar book: The Case for Faith by Lee Strobel is a great read. |
Very popular book. We were almost constantly sold out, but mostly because some local catholic schools required it. |
I liked it quite a bit.
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DCRunningDiva
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Posted: 02/13/06 - 15:04 Post subject:
| airehead wrote: | | MechEngDropout wrote: | | DCRunningDiva wrote: | | MechEngDropout wrote: | | Kimba90 wrote: | | I would tell you to go to the woods. Nature. That's where religion is. |
Word.
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So, who do you think MADE those woods? Nature? |
Is it so hard to believe that things can happen without divine intervention? |
It's hard for me to believe that things happen all around me without divine intervention. However, the thing that would be difficult to comprehend is that someone other than God made the universe. I saw a video series once that, if you (or anyone else) saw it would put to rest all the questions about who created the universe. The statistics are mind-bending that it could be anyone else. |
Why, because the odds are so small that we would end up like we are? What was the video series? Can you give any more information? |
A similar book: The Case for Faith by Lee Strobel is a great read. |
I'll have to get back with you on the title of the series, Mech. I'll ask the DH.
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andydp
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Posted: 02/13/06 - 17:18 Post subject:
| DCRunningDiva wrote: |
Is it so hard to believe that things can happen without divine intervention?
It's hard for me to believe that things happen all around me without divine intervention. However, the thing that would be difficult to comprehend is that someone other than God made the universe. I saw a video series once that, if you (or anyone else) saw it would put to rest all the questions about who created the universe. The statistics are mind-bending that it could be anyone else. |
I have never once doubted God created our universe. I give God every possible credit for creating the world and making it the way it is now.
Just because I believe we got this way through billions of years of evolution does not make my belief in God any less. In fact it makes it stronger because I can see the hand of God guiding the process. And when God decided it was time, he made Adam and Eve in his image.
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Posted: 02/13/06 - 20:00 Post subject:
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Posted: 02/13/06 - 20:04 Post subject:
| keltic63 wrote: | | I think it's important to remember that the Bible comes to us through humans. It is not one cohesive book, but rather many books in one collection, that a group of men decided was what we needed to know. There are other books that did not make it into the canon. Some of the writers were putting things down on paper years after the fact. it could be poor memory, it could be their own "spin" on things too. |
One thing I want to add to this: If Moses and Aaron had settled a couple of hundred miles to the north, the "Epic of Gilgamesh" a contemporary document of the Old Testament, would probably be in the Bible.
Our current Bible as we know it, was compiled by the Council Of Nicene in about 600AD. It was there a vote was taken on the Divinity of Christ - (overwhelmingly in favor). Many other Gospels and other writings did not make it into the Bible. The Gospels we use in our services now were written about 300AD. The remaining Gospels, were suppressed and declared "heretical". We are fortunate they were saved by the Coptic Monks in Egypt and the Sinai Peninsula.
Taken all together these documents give us rare insights into the early Church.
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Posted: 02/13/06 - 23:13 Post subject:
| andydp wrote: | | keltic63 wrote: | | I think it's important to remember that the Bible comes to us through humans. It is not one cohesive book, but rather many books in one collection, that a group of men decided was what we needed to know. There are other books that did not make it into the canon. Some of the writers were putting things down on paper years after the fact. it could be poor memory, it could be their own "spin" on things too. |
One thing I want to add to this: If Moses and Aaron had settled a couple of hundred miles to the north, the "Epic of Gilgamesh" a contemporary document of the Old Testament, would probably be in the Bible.
Our current Bible as we know it, was compiled by the Council Of Nicene in about 600AD. It was there a vote was taken on the Divinity of Christ - (overwhelmingly in favor). Many other Gospels and other writings did not make it into the Bible. The Gospels we use in our services now were written about 300AD. The remaining Gospels, were suppressed and declared "heretical". We are fortunate they were saved by the Coptic Monks in Egypt and the Sinai Peninsula.
Taken all together these documents give us rare insights into the early Church. |
thanks Andy, I knew there was a name to Councill that declared certain books as canonical. There may have been another Council as well, but at the moment I don't recall it. (it's only been 20 years since college, when I minored in religion.)
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Posted: 02/13/06 - 23:22 Post subject:
| keltic63 wrote: | if you have issues with differing versions of the same story, you should probably avoid the gospels.
I think it's important to remember that the Bible comes to us through humans. It is not one cohesive book, but rather many books in one collection, that a group of men decided was what we needed to know. There are other books that did not make it into the canon. Some of the writers were putting things down on paper years after the fact. it could be poor memory, it could be their own "spin" on things too. You can have 2 or 3 people at a party tell you about it the next morning and you'll hear very different accounts. It depends on the prejudices that they bring to the story. That doesn't bother me at all. What does bother me is people trying to elevate the Bible to the position of Deity, inerrant and literal, dictated in perfect King James English, and everything that Jesus said is in red. |
Very well said.
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