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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 12:57    Post subject:
I use a very odd combo of both. I hate writing.
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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 12:58    Post subject:
The grocery list is hand written, everything else is typed. My handwriting is pretty bad.
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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 13:00    Post subject:
I print. And I have the worstest handwriting...evah!
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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 13:12    Post subject:
I only sign my name, everything else is printed.

I print like a typewriter. It's a combination of Catholic High School, and Engineering School....in the era before computers and CAD...when you actualy HAD to draw things with pencils Razz
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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 13:14    Post subject:
purple hayes wrote:
The grocery list is hand written, everything else is typed. My handwriting is pretty bad.


So you're the one who sent me the letter with the letters cut out of the newspaper??
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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 13:23    Post subject:
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I print like a typewriter...It's a combination of Catholic High School, and Engineering School....
Question for anyone who went to a Catholic elementary school (I sure hope they still didn't do this at the high school level) - Is it true that the nuns would whack you on the knuckles with a yardstick/pointer/whatever to get good penmanship out of you? And to make sure you held the pen or pencil in just the right way?
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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 13:25    Post subject:
gretriever wrote:
RangerG wrote:


I print like a typewriter...It's a combination of Catholic High School, and Engineering School....
Question for anyone who went to a Catholic elementary school (I sure hope they still didn't do this at the high school level) - Is it true that the nuns would whack you on the knuckles with a yardstick/pointer/whatever to get good penmanship out of you? And to make sure you held the pen or pencil in just the right way?


My dad said the nuns in his Catholic schools were vicious mean about whacking you--about anything.

I had a teacher hit me on the head when I got an answer wrong. And this was public school. (And I wasn't even smarting off that time)
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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 13:30    Post subject: Re: Handwriting - poll not poll NOW WITH RANT
Maddie's Wench wrote:
Wouldn't we be serving these kids better to teach them to print neatly, sign their name, and TYPE efficiently?


Absol-frickin-lutely. You don't handwrite emails or documents or computer code. Do you really need to handwrite anything other than your signature on checks (fast becoming obsolete), entries in the checkbook (also becoming obsolete with Quicken and Money), and the love-letter to your SO (I hope this never dies -- It keep me out of the doghouse.)?
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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 13:35    Post subject:
gretriever wrote:
RangerG wrote:


I print like a typewriter...It's a combination of Catholic High School, and Engineering School....
Question for anyone who went to a Catholic elementary school (I sure hope they still didn't do this at the high school level) - Is it true that the nuns would whack you on the knuckles with a yardstick/pointer/whatever to get good penmanship out of you? And to make sure you held the pen or pencil in just the right way?


The nun I had in High School used a steel edged heavy wooden ruler.....I got cut once....but then the woman must have hated me with a passion.... Twisted Evil I think the term they used for me was Heretic... By the time I graduated, she had an all steel one....
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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 13:37    Post subject:
I hear you about the new style Maddie. I'm already getting the we don't make our letters like that!
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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 14:12    Post subject:
I tend to print. with several years in the Lab writing is not normally done.

when i do write it is a combo, i'll in mid senteance switch back and forth for some reason. my printing is OK at best. my cursive sucks at best. even had a teacher tape record my homework. wondering about this disgraphica thing. sounds all too similar to me.
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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 14:20    Post subject:
I use both (not at the same time), probably cursive more often. Both are very nice looking if I do say so myself.
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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 17:21    Post subject:
In school I have to take notes. I used to write as fast as I could and then go home and transfer them all to my computer so I wouldn't have to schlep it with me. Know what? My handwriting is now atrocious. I schlep the notebook.

In fact, for the first time, the law school is allowing students to take exams on their laptops. We have to download software that blocks out everything else.

I guess everyone's handwriting is terrible, esp. when there's a time limit...and it's your only grade.
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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 17:34    Post subject:
MW, I did the same thing with Libby. Taught her how to write when she was 4. Then she goes into K, where they are teaching D'Nealian style. None of the straight lines I taught her, it's closer to a cursive font if you ask me. I guess to make the transition to cursive easier? It was a fricken nightmare though, I remember that.

Here in NC they do it the old fashioned way. Not sure if this is a good or bad thing.
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PostPosted: 11/20/03 - 20:06    Post subject:
To answer your question:

I use all three methods when I write, depending on the situation.

Print: When I taught Elementary Grades and with my children now. I think I can print very nice.

Cursive: When I send cards to people

Mix: When I write in general to make notes, lists, whatever it takes to get it out.

I'll join you in your rant.

Preface:
I taught at both elementary and middle school levels. I went through great lengths to teach my students how to make the proper formations of the letters so they write in the most effective manner. I was required to do this and agreed that it was important to do.


Rant 1: I have stuggled for the past 4 years with my oldest daughter to get her to make proper letter formations. She has learned some bad habits and now cannot do the cursive well. Furthermore, I don't think the teacher's in her schools have spent any kind of time in the writing process. This burns me, because if kids start making bad habits with their writing, those habits are hard to break. Cait came home a few weeks ago and was expected to do her spelling in cursive like your son was. She was frustrated and I wound up holding her hand to do all of the writing. She's clearly not being taught how to do so and there are definite steps that you take to do so.

I know it's part of my job to help my children learn and I am glad to do so. I am lucky that I am home and have the time to work with Cait. I feel bad for the parents who work and don't have a great deal of time to work on "Handwriting".

Rant 2: I don't know about you, but we're on our third style of writing. One school wanted the "Balls and Sticks" method. Another wanted "Modern Handwriting" or "D'Nealeon". And now we're on to Cursive. Cait is so confused and whatever is taught seems to go out the door. Mad This frustrates me to no end. I think when it all boils down to it, teacher's are pressured to test performance rather than some of the "little stuff"/mechanicals.

MW: IMO (even from a teaching standpoint) I think that what matters is that all kids are taught the basics in both styles of writing. After they are taught how to put the words down on paper, I think it would be best to leave it up to the kids to chose how to present their work. Let's face it. Some people/kids are better printers than writers...and vise versa. Furthermore, with technology today writing is obsolete in many instances. Kids can sit behind a computer screen and print off their reports now. So...I feel it's not AS important to have the kids write in just one way.

I used to get my coworkers angry at me when I taught math, because I did not care whether the kids printed or wrote in cursive. I just wanted answers...and the correct ones at that.

So, I agree with your thoughts. I'm sure I would not make other teacher's happy with these views...so be it. As you can see today from this thread, people are going to write whichever way they can to get their thinking on paper.


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Thank you. This has been on my mind for weeks.
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