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purple hayes
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 Posted: 05/05/04 - 16:03 Post subject: Good article on Commitment, Sacrifice and Suffering
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genie
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Posted: 05/05/04 - 16:13 Post subject:
Suffering is WAY overrated. 
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kattzoo
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Posted: 05/05/04 - 18:05 Post subject:
Excellent article, but I'm with Genie.
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elkid
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Posted: 05/06/04 - 09:14 Post subject:
I do all 3, so I must be an elite athlete!
Where's my big paycheck?
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copteacher
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Posted: 05/07/04 - 08:26 Post subject:
I like the premise behind the article but I am very happy just being a mid packer.
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bpdou
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Posted: 05/07/04 - 08:28 Post subject:
| elkid wrote: | I do all 3, so I must be an elite athlete!
Where's my big paycheck? |
It's in the mail...
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bpdou
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Posted: 05/07/04 - 08:33 Post subject: Re: Good article on Commitment, Sacrifice and Suffering
| purple hayes wrote: | http://www.ultrafit.com/newsletter/december01.html#andy
I think I've got a better grip on the commitment and sacrifice aspects of it. It's the suffering part that I struggle with. |
Great article. I find that values-based goal setting turns commitment and sacrifice choices into no-brainers. IMHO.
Its one of the biggest things I find working with people -- WHY are you doing this. What do you value that is driving this decision you've made?
As far as suffering, I'm a bit biased, and lucky. I've had times of incredible physical pain, so the suffering I endure during a race, or training, or whatever, really pales by comparison.
It's all a choice, isn't it?
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runaroundsue
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Posted: 05/07/04 - 09:18 Post subject:
As far as suffering, I'm a bit biased, and lucky. I've had times of incredible physical pain, so the suffering I endure during a race, or training, or whatever, really pales by comparison.
although, I "question" the lucky part. I have to agree. I compare hard running to giving birth, it can be very painful....but there is a reward a the end of the tunnel. But I've been "unlucky" to endure extreme physical pain where there is no reward...only anguish.....running is NEVER like that. Even with your worst run or your worst time...you still get a sense of accomplishment
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bpdou
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Posted: 05/07/04 - 09:48 Post subject:
| runaroundsue wrote: | As far as suffering, I'm a bit biased, and lucky. I've had times of incredible physical pain, so the suffering I endure during a race, or training, or whatever, really pales by comparison.
although, I "question" the lucky part. I have to agree. I compare hard running to giving birth, it can be very painful....but there is a reward a the end of the tunnel. But I've been "unlucky" to endure extreme physical pain where there is no reward...only anguish.....running is NEVER like that. Even with your worst run or your worst time...you still get a sense of accomplishment |
I guess I meant lucky in the sense that it's given me perspective. And true, the pain I've endured in the past had an ending of the pain-causer being removed and so no more pain... hardly a real reward, more just relief.
Yes. Running gives you a positive ending to that sufferring (no matter how great or small. I know some have said they don't understand the suffering part, but I'd find it hard to believe they don't have SOME discomfort that they choose to overcome). Nothing beats that feeling just short of what ever accomplishment when I realize OMG I might actually MAKE it!
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Flip
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Posted: 05/07/04 - 12:22 Post subject: Thanks
Thanks for that article. Really puts it in perspective. After 8 years of competitive gymnastics, I do understand the suffering and sacrifice that comes with sport. I hope I can appropriate those characteristics for endurance training.
Flip
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