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runaroundsue
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 Posted: 03/23/06 - 18:02 Post subject: GT programs
Are gifted and talented programs really for students that have some talent that can't be taught or is it for the smart kids? I guess my question is what is the basis??
I thought that it started for peak and valley children that actually have some unique gift in a specialized area, yet or the past few years the way moms throw around "my child is in G&T" like it's honor society.
DH and I got into this discussion after our speech IEP. His social studies teacher was there and said that he recommended my son for G&T. Later my husband said "I don't think Andrew is right for that program" and I said, "he's exactly right". "well, I think Bryce is the one that has real talent". "No, Bryce is a great student and good grades will come easily for him, Andrew is unique in that he is very indepth with social studies"
So who's right??? isn't national honor society and advanced classes for the smarties and gift & talented for special children that might not be smart in all aspects of education??
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msparks
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Posted: 03/23/06 - 18:16 Post subject: Re: GT programs
| runaroundsue wrote: | | So who's right??? isn't national honor society and advanced classes for the smarties and gift & talented for special children that might not be smart in all aspects of education?? |
You might be asking a question of this forum which would be better answered by the school system.
The NHS (at least, when I was inducted...back when the blackboards were, uh, black!) wasn't about classes. It had - mostly - to do with GPA. There were other factors involved in the selection process, but there were no classes designed for the members of the Society. Actually, way back then, there were no AP (advanced placement) courses which carried extra weight to the grades. Back then, the highest GPA possible was 4.0. But I feel certain that the courses in which I was enrolled were above the basic level, they just weren't called anything special.
As might be expected, there were no G&T classes back then.
But there was woodshop and automotive shop!! 
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MechEngDropout
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Posted: 03/23/06 - 18:20 Post subject:
Gifted and Talented has nothing to do with grades. It's usually based strictly on IQ, and if someone is nominated for the program, they usually have to take an IQ test before being admitted.
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genie
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Posted: 03/23/06 - 18:46 Post subject:
I know in our school district the program has changed since I was in it many moons ago. I got yanked out of school in 3rd grade based on an IQ test, had to go through a bunch of other aptitude tests, which I can't remember now, and then was put into another school with a whole program geared toward gifted students. I ended up being accelerated and a year ahead of everyone my age, i.e. we had earth science in 8th grade, bio in 9th, chem in 10th, etc....when everyone else started with earth sci in 9th type thing. This was the same for all the subjects. I actually took AP classes my junior and senior years in high school because I had finished all the regular stuff already.
I know this has changed, that school is closed and the gifted programs are taught as "enrichment" in the grade schools, and the "smarties" in them are usually plopped straight into honors track in high school. In our case it was based on scholastic ability, analytical and reasoning, but we were always looked at as the "eggheads." I'd call the school superintendent or maybe the principal of their school, Sue, to see what the real purpose of the G&T program there is.
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