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 Posted: 08/31/05 - 17:54 Post subject:
No gas lines here yet. And the stations still seemed to have gas, although the national news are talking about a shortage.
I guess it might be time to pull my bike out of the barn and see if I can still ride it. I have a 50 mile round trip daily to work.
I was thinking about the gas complaints on my way home. Home, to my nice dry house. In my car, from my job which still exists. To AC. And satellite TV service. A nd the internet. I'm not going to complain about gas prices.
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Posted: 08/31/05 - 19:25 Post subject:
Just saw the CBS Evening News. Some BP station in the Atlanta area is selling at $ 6.00/Gal
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kristin31
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Posted: 08/31/05 - 20:10 Post subject:
| sonnylax wrote: | | kristin31 wrote: | | Many people who live here survived Andrew and understand what it means to lose everything and rebuild. |
Local Radio Host Neal Boortz had a great take on those who have "lost everything."
| Neal Boortz wrote: | "AND NOW SHE HAS NOTHING ...."
Yes .. the situation on the Gulf coast is terrible. It is beyond imagination for most of us. But let's not forget where we live; let's not forget what America is all about. We're not all looters.
This morning I heard a TV anchor discussing the plight of some young woman named Natalie Brown. The anchor said that she fled the hurricane and left her house and her job, and now she has nothing.
Nothing?
First .. the obvious. She still has her health, her friends, her family, her education, her ambition, her car and her boyfriend. In fact, she's staying with her parents! Her bank accounts are still safe. The money is still there.
This means she "has nothing?"
Natalie Brown lives in America. She has now made the decision to relocate away from New Orleans. That she can do with relative ease. She lives in a country with a vibrant and growing economy; a country where hard work and good decision making will be rewarded. She gets to relocate and seek another job in a country that has embraced the one economic system that has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system in the history of civilization. She left a home she rented behind in New Orleans ... and is going to plant roots elsewhere in the greatest country in the world.
And she "has nothing?"
Tens of millions of people around the world would trade places with Natalie Brown right now. Today. Hurricane and all. Tell them that she has nothing. |
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I was thinking more along the lines of people who live in these areas and here, at the poverty level, who don't make enough money to relocate, afford insurance or even a bank account, but still work for a living because that is all they have ever known. The cycle of poverty is often difficult to break.
Many of these people who are stuck and lost everything left even worse situations. While I feel for the Natalie Browns of this world, I feel even more for those in much worse situations. I feel badly for anyone who has experienced a tragedy, or lives in a poverty stricken, violent, underprivileged situation.
If I wanted a tatoo, I guess I should get a bleeding heart on my ass.
Instead, I'll grow the plants in the yard.
In our case, had this thing caused real damage to us, we are fortunate enough to have family/friends that could help us. NOt everyone is that lucky.
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Posted: 08/31/05 - 20:12 Post subject:
| andydp wrote: | | Just saw the CBS Evening News. Some BP station in the Atlanta area is selling at $ 6.00/Gal |
i saw $5.99 on the way home tonight. but it was the only place left on the street that had gas left.
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kristin31
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Posted: 08/31/05 - 20:30 Post subject:
| crazyfrog wrote: | | andydp wrote: | | Just saw the CBS Evening News. Some BP station in the Atlanta area is selling at $ 6.00/Gal |
i saw $5.99 on the way home tonight. but it was the only place left on the street that had gas left. |
What!!!?? The last I heard was $4.oo/gallon! It'sout $3.00 here, but stations are running out. I'm glad I have my bike! and a small car.
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Posted: 08/31/05 - 21:09 Post subject:
| sonnylax wrote: | | kristin31 wrote: | | Many people who live here survived Andrew and understand what it means to lose everything and rebuild. |
Local Radio Host Neal Boortz had a great take on those who have "lost everything."
| Neal Boortz wrote: | "AND NOW SHE HAS NOTHING ...."
Yes .. the situation on the Gulf coast is terrible. It is beyond imagination for most of us. But let's not forget where we live; let's not forget what America is all about. We're not all looters.
This morning I heard a TV anchor discussing the plight of some young woman named Natalie Brown. The anchor said that she fled the hurricane and left her house and her job, and now she has nothing.
Nothing?
First .. the obvious. She still has her health, her friends, her family, her education, her ambition, her car and her boyfriend. In fact, she's staying with her parents! Her bank accounts are still safe. The money is still there.
This means she "has nothing?"
Natalie Brown lives in America. She has now made the decision to relocate away from New Orleans. That she can do with relative ease. She lives in a country with a vibrant and growing economy; a country where hard work and good decision making will be rewarded. She gets to relocate and seek another job in a country that has embraced the one economic system that has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system in the history of civilization. She left a home she rented behind in New Orleans ... and is going to plant roots elsewhere in the greatest country in the world.
And she "has nothing?"
Tens of millions of people around the world would trade places with Natalie Brown right now. Today. Hurricane and all. Tell them that she has nothing. |
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I know, those gulf coast residents are such whiners!
 
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Posted: 08/31/05 - 23:12 Post subject:
| kristin31 wrote: | | crazyfrog wrote: | | andydp wrote: | | Just saw the CBS Evening News. Some BP station in the Atlanta area is selling at $ 6.00/Gal |
i saw $5.99 on the way home tonight. but it was the only place left on the street that had gas left. |
What!!!?? The last I heard was $4.oo/gallon! It'sout $3.00 here, but stations are running out. I'm glad I have my bike! and a small car. |
i found a place that was $3.29 for 93, it was all they had left. the place down the street, less than a mile was $3.29 for 89 and had a line of cars waiting at 11:00 at night.
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Posted: 08/31/05 - 23:15 Post subject:
| kristin31 wrote: | | sonnylax wrote: | | kristin31 wrote: | | Many people who live here survived Andrew and understand what it means to lose everything and rebuild. |
Local Radio Host Neal Boortz had a great take on those who have "lost everything."
| Neal Boortz wrote: | "AND NOW SHE HAS NOTHING ...."
Yes .. the situation on the Gulf coast is terrible. It is beyond imagination for most of us. But let's not forget where we live; let's not forget what America is all about. We're not all looters.
This morning I heard a TV anchor discussing the plight of some young woman named Natalie Brown. The anchor said that she fled the hurricane and left her house and her job, and now she has nothing.
Nothing?
First .. the obvious. She still has her health, her friends, her family, her education, her ambition, her car and her boyfriend. In fact, she's staying with her parents! Her bank accounts are still safe. The money is still there.
This means she "has nothing?"
Natalie Brown lives in America. She has now made the decision to relocate away from New Orleans. That she can do with relative ease. She lives in a country with a vibrant and growing economy; a country where hard work and good decision making will be rewarded. She gets to relocate and seek another job in a country that has embraced the one economic system that has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system in the history of civilization. She left a home she rented behind in New Orleans ... and is going to plant roots elsewhere in the greatest country in the world.
And she "has nothing?"
Tens of millions of people around the world would trade places with Natalie Brown right now. Today. Hurricane and all. Tell them that she has nothing. |
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I was thinking more along the lines of people who live in these areas and here, at the poverty level, who don't make enough money to relocate, afford insurance or even a bank account, but still work for a living because that is all they have ever known. The cycle of poverty is often difficult to break.
Many of these people who are stuck and lost everything left even worse situations. While I feel for the Natalie Browns of this world, I feel even more for those in much worse situations. I feel badly for anyone who has experienced a tragedy, or lives in a poverty stricken, violent, underprivileged situation.
If I wanted a tatoo, I guess I should get a bleeding heart on my ass.
Instead, I'll grow the plants in the yard.
In our case, had this thing caused real damage to us, we are fortunate enough to have family/friends that could help us. NOt everyone is that lucky. |
You know what p's me off? My boss is ranting about all the people in NO who did not evacuate. (She's not talking about those who chose to ride out the storm). She is talking about all those other people who are too poor---she could not comprehend the level of poverty that exists in and around NO. These people--even if given a ride out of town--have NOWHERE to go.
I can't even begin to explain to her the intense poverty of some of the citizens in NO. It is unbelievable. These people really have nothing.
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Posted: 08/31/05 - 23:26 Post subject:
Gas here has not been raised... yet. It was $2.489 tonight, but gas is getting very scarce. Lines are long, if the station even has gasoline. My sister and I stopped to fill up her car and the pumps were running out as we were there. All grades empty, and I had seen a fuel truck earlier that day. It won't surprise me one bit to see gas prices jump 50 cents to a dollar in one day. It really needs to be done to keep people from making frivilous trips around an already congested city that is packed with many many more people.
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kristin31
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Posted: 08/31/05 - 23:29 Post subject:
| airehead wrote: | | kristin31 wrote: | | sonnylax wrote: | | kristin31 wrote: | | Many people who live here survived Andrew and understand what it means to lose everything and rebuild. |
Local Radio Host Neal Boortz had a great take on those who have "lost everything."
| Neal Boortz wrote: | "AND NOW SHE HAS NOTHING ...."
Yes .. the situation on the Gulf coast is terrible. It is beyond imagination for most of us. But let's not forget where we live; let's not forget what America is all about. We're not all looters.
This morning I heard a TV anchor discussing the plight of some young woman named Natalie Brown. The anchor said that she fled the hurricane and left her house and her job, and now she has nothing.
Nothing?
First .. the obvious. She still has her health, her friends, her family, her education, her ambition, her car and her boyfriend. In fact, she's staying with her parents! Her bank accounts are still safe. The money is still there.
This means she "has nothing?"
Natalie Brown lives in America. She has now made the decision to relocate away from New Orleans. That she can do with relative ease. She lives in a country with a vibrant and growing economy; a country where hard work and good decision making will be rewarded. She gets to relocate and seek another job in a country that has embraced the one economic system that has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system in the history of civilization. She left a home she rented behind in New Orleans ... and is going to plant roots elsewhere in the greatest country in the world.
And she "has nothing?"
Tens of millions of people around the world would trade places with Natalie Brown right now. Today. Hurricane and all. Tell them that she has nothing. |
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I was thinking more along the lines of people who live in these areas and here, at the poverty level, who don't make enough money to relocate, afford insurance or even a bank account, but still work for a living because that is all they have ever known. The cycle of poverty is often difficult to break.
Many of these people who are stuck and lost everything left even worse situations. While I feel for the Natalie Browns of this world, I feel even more for those in much worse situations. I feel badly for anyone who has experienced a tragedy, or lives in a poverty stricken, violent, underprivileged situation.
If I wanted a tatoo, I guess I should get a bleeding heart on my ass.
Instead, I'll grow the plants in the yard.
In our case, had this thing caused real damage to us, we are fortunate enough to have family/friends that could help us. NOt everyone is that lucky. |
You know what p's me off? My boss is ranting about all the people in NO who did not evacuate. (She's not talking about those who chose to ride out the storm). She is talking about all those other people who are too poor---she could not comprehend the level of poverty that exists in and around NO. These people--even if given a ride out of town--have NOWHERE to go.
I can't even begin to explain to her the intense poverty of some of the citizens in NO. It is unbelievable. These people really have nothing. |
Exactly. It is the same here in Homestead and Fl City. People don't make enough money to afford a car or insurance, let alone enough to leave. What are they supposed to do? Be punished by their unlucky fate to be born into a life of poverty, or moving into one and trying to better themselves?
For every looter you see, there are 500 other honest people trying to keep their families safe.
I'm not all that religious. This storm has really, really scared me.
"There, but for the grace of God, go I."
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Posted: 09/01/05 - 10:55 Post subject:
| crazyfrog wrote: | | andydp wrote: | | Just saw the CBS Evening News. Some BP station in the Atlanta area is selling at $ 6.00/Gal |
i saw $5.99 on the way home tonight. but it was the only place left on the street that had gas left. |
This would be considered price gouging and you should contact the Attorney General's office. If the money isn't refunded they'll lose their business license.
Sunoco has a refinery here in town that supplies all the OK Quiktrip's. I don't know where their oil comes from.
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Posted: 09/01/05 - 11:03 Post subject:
| Ms. Jenn wrote: | | crazyfrog wrote: | | andydp wrote: | | Just saw the CBS Evening News. Some BP station in the Atlanta area is selling at $ 6.00/Gal |
i saw $5.99 on the way home tonight. but it was the only place left on the street that had gas left. |
This would be considered price gouging and you should contact the Attorney General's office. If the money isn't refunded they'll lose their business license.
Sunoco has a refinery here in town that supplies all the OK Quiktrip's. I don't know where their oil comes from. |
Is it gouging is the station across the street was charging $3.00 / gal? It seems to me that if consumers were willing to pay $6.00 instead of $3.00, then they were charging what the market was willing to bear. 
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Posted: 09/01/05 - 12:45 Post subject:
| purple hayes wrote: | | Ms. Jenn wrote: | | crazyfrog wrote: | | andydp wrote: | | Just saw the CBS Evening News. Some BP station in the Atlanta area is selling at $ 6.00/Gal |
i saw $5.99 on the way home tonight. but it was the only place left on the street that had gas left. |
This would be considered price gouging and you should contact the Attorney General's office. If the money isn't refunded they'll lose their business license.
Sunoco has a refinery here in town that supplies all the OK Quiktrip's. I don't know where their oil comes from. |
Is it gouging is the station across the street was charging $3.00 / gal? It seems to me that if consumers were willing to pay $6.00 instead of $3.00, then they were charging what the market was willing to bear. |
Yes, because it is over and beyond reasonable markup (according to an interview with someone on the radio here in OK). Something similar happened around 9/11. Panic brought on the price increase.
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Posted: 09/01/05 - 12:54 Post subject:
| Ms. Jenn wrote: | | purple hayes wrote: | | Ms. Jenn wrote: | | crazyfrog wrote: | | andydp wrote: | | Just saw the CBS Evening News. Some BP station in the Atlanta area is selling at $ 6.00/Gal |
i saw $5.99 on the way home tonight. but it was the only place left on the street that had gas left. |
This would be considered price gouging and you should contact the Attorney General's office. If the money isn't refunded they'll lose their business license.
Sunoco has a refinery here in town that supplies all the OK Quiktrip's. I don't know where their oil comes from. |
Is it gouging is the station across the street was charging $3.00 / gal? It seems to me that if consumers were willing to pay $6.00 instead of $3.00, then they were charging what the market was willing to bear. |
Yes, because it is over and beyond reasonable markup (according to an interview with someone on the radio here in OK). Something similar happened around 9/11. Panic brought on the price increase. |
Right. If everyone is screaming "shortage" "terror" "we're going to run out of gas" and charges $6.00 people will pay it because they want to make sure they have a full tank if there is no more gas. They worry that if they leave the line at the gas station that the $3 station down the road will be empty and then when they get back to the $6 station it'll be empty too and now they can't get gas. It's panic. It's taking advantage of people in a panic when there is no good reason to charge $6 a gallon.
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Posted: 09/01/05 - 12:58 Post subject:
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