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elkid
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 Posted: 11/16/04 - 12:28 Post subject:
Take a look at your computer. Read the name on it. Then go to your local electronics store and look around at the other PCs. No need to even look at the OS, the software, or networking components - just look at the hardware itself. All these manufacturers function like WalMart, and the jobs they take overseas erase huge salaries. Everyone says WalMart's the enemy, but no one is really talking about what's going on in the technology industry. One WalMart closes, a lot of people are out of jobs. Imagine if one tech plant or service operation closes and how much money that takes from the local economy; just one lost salaried technology job is the equivalent of many WalMart hourly jobs. Next time you call tech support and talk to Samir in India, remember he took the place of Joe Smith in Everytown, USA.
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Posted: 11/16/04 - 12:29 Post subject:
| phillycat wrote: | | I think that it is virtually impossible to buy from somewhere that doesn't support foreign manufacturing. |
I agree with you on that, and I am not against foreign manufacturing per se. For example, my favorite champagne and wines come from France and Italy. In my case, it's a personal choice to not support the corporations that I feel are the major offenders in this area. To me (and again, this is just my personal choice) there is a difference between purchasing a bottle of Vueve, which is produced according to certain standards, by professional adults, and buying shoddily manufactured clothes made by starving 8 year olds in a sweatshop.
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Posted: 11/16/04 - 12:31 Post subject:
| elkid wrote: | | Take a look at your computer. Read the name on it. Then go to your local electronics store and look around at the other PCs. No need to even look at the OS, the software, or networking components - just look at the hardware itself. All these manufacturers function like WalMart, and the jobs they take overseas erase huge salaries. Everyone says WalMart's the enemy, but no one is really talking about what's going on in the technology industry. One WalMart closes, a lot of people are out of jobs. Imagine if one tech plant or service operation closes and how much money that takes from the local economy; just one lost salaried technology job is the equivalent of many WalMart hourly jobs. Next time you call tech support and talk to Samir in India, remember he took the place of Joe Smith in Everytown, USA. |
 I talked to a customer service rep. from Dell Computers last night. The women I spoke with wasn't doing so well with english. I forget where they are actually out of but it's not anywhere in the US.
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elkid
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Posted: 11/16/04 - 12:38 Post subject:
| kristin31 wrote: | | my favorite champagne |
I, too, love champagne. Wowie wow-wow-wow!
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Posted: 11/16/04 - 12:44 Post subject:
| mickeyvw98 wrote: |
I talked to a customer service rep. from Dell Computers last night. The women I spoke with wasn't doing so well with english. I forget where they are actually out of but it's not anywhere in the US. |
dell customer service is based in india
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Posted: 11/16/04 - 12:48 Post subject:
| kristin31 wrote: |
I agree with you on that, and I am not against foreign manufacturing per se. For example, my favorite champagne and wines come from France and Italy. In my case, it's a personal choice to not support the corporations that I feel are the major offenders in this area. To me (and again, this is just my personal choice) there is a difference between purchasing a bottle of Vueve, which is produced according to certain standards, by professional adults, and buying shoddily manufactured clothes made by starving 8 year olds in a sweatshop. |
I totally agree with you. I just think that it is becoming more and more difficult to find things that are not mass produced overseas.
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Posted: 11/16/04 - 12:50 Post subject:
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dell customer service is based in india |
I thought I read a report though that they were moving it back to the US. I'll get back on that one.
But the Walmart thing. I normally don't shop at Walmart because I believe they actually caused increase unemployment in my area. When they opened their store, a couple other stores closed. I tend to try and find another place in town to purchase what I need so that hopefully, that other place won't close.
One of the guys I ran with said it this way though, "Suppose you can buy a bag of salt at Walmart for $4 and the same bag of salt costs $5 at your other store. Is it worth it?" My response was that with the gas, wait in line, and being able to stay away from Walmart was well worth it. Even if it was $2 more.
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kristin31
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Posted: 11/16/04 - 12:51 Post subject:
| elkid wrote: |
I, too, love champagne. Wowie wow-wow-wow!
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I LOVE the Continental. What a great character that was.
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Posted: 11/16/04 - 13:04 Post subject:
| kristin31 wrote: | | I LOVE the Continental. What a great character that was. |
You must purchase the SNL "Best of Christopher Walken" DVD. It's gold, Jerry - GOLD!
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Posted: 11/16/04 - 13:33 Post subject:
America votes with their wallet. Last time I was at Walmart I got a lecture from a fellow customer as he was handing his money to the cashier about the evils of Walmart.  Even he was voting with his wallet even though his mouth said other things altogether.
I also remember when Wallyworld first opened, the customer service was second to none, the stores were bright and clean and filled with good value. Other stores at the time, (Kmort and TG&Y etc) just didn't offer the same levels. Since Mr. Walton has died, though, the customer service has really gone downhill and the stores are not what they used to be.
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Posted: 11/16/04 - 13:38 Post subject:
| airehead wrote: | | Since Mr. Walton has died, though, the customer service has really gone downhill and the stores are not what they used to be. |
The Walton family still owns 39% of the stock, and the oldest son Rob is Chairman. Even though they family owns a large portion of the business, they have little to say in day to day operations
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Posted: 11/16/04 - 13:41 Post subject:
| Cappy wrote: |
The Walton family still owns 39% of the stock, and the oldest son Rob is Chairman. Even though they family owns a large portion of the business, they have little to say in day to day operations |
They just don't have the same vision that Dad had, methinks.
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Posted: 11/16/04 - 13:42 Post subject:
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They just don't have the same vision that Dad had, methinks. |
Most likely. They are involved in a lot of charitable work and foundations.
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Posted: 11/16/04 - 13:45 Post subject:
| Cappy wrote: |
Most likely. They are involved in a lot of charitable work and foundations. |
That is good, though...And, a little off topic, but I read that the Starbucks employees who are given one pound of coffee free a week are saving it up and sending their free pound to GIs overseas. (Especially since Starbucks as a corporate entity doesn't involve itself in local donations)
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Posted: 11/16/04 - 15:18 Post subject:
I am no fan of Wal-Mart.
1. They completely control the market, they are a classic monopoly. Wal-Mart actually impacts editorial and packaging decisions worldwide. Booksellers and music companies go to them to see if they have an opinion on say a CD cover or bookjacket or potentially 'offensive' content, and if so, most times the company does what they say to make it acceptable to Wal-Mart, because if they can't sell it there they'll lose such huge market share.
2. The trend in the last few years has been to build smaller Wal-Marts to compete with small town shopping districts, and once those were priced out, to close that nearby store in favor of a Supercenter Wal-Mart serving multiple small towns, sometimes fifty miles away, or more. That's where folks are now forced to shop, since the small towns rarely make a comeback.
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