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 Posted: 10/22/04 - 11:44 Post subject: Favorite Founding Father?
with the other thread discussing all these guys...
I thought, hey, I wonder who everyone likes the mostest?
So who is your favorite of the "founding fathers"?
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 11:46 Post subject:
Noah.
..er, didn't you mean that far back?
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 11:48 Post subject:
Herbie Hancock. 
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 11:48 Post subject:
Run or DMC
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coachmarkos
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 11:48 Post subject:
both you two, ":GO to your ROOMS!"
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 11:54 Post subject:
You have to pick one? No can do!
- John Jay
- John Rutledge
- Benjamin Franklin
- Robert Lewis
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 12:01 Post subject:
Depends what we're basing this on. I'm very partial to John Adams (except for the Alien and Sedition Acts), but Hamilton did so much in founding and shaping our nation from the very start (want banks, that was Hamilton. Federal customs service? Hamilton again). But, Hamilton wasn't that impressive in his fidelity to his wife. Washington is a bit stodgy for my tastes and reading Adams and Hamilton have prejudiced me against Jefferson and Franklin at the moment.
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 12:03 Post subject:
My favorite Finding Father:
Dog
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 12:08 Post subject:
| Pug wrote: | | Depends what we're basing this on. I'm very partial to John Adams (except for the Alien and Sedition Acts), but Hamilton did so much in founding and shaping our nation from the very start (want banks, that was Hamilton. Federal customs service? Hamilton again). But, Hamilton wasn't that impressive in his fidelity to his wife. Washington is a bit stodgy for my tastes and reading Adams and Hamilton have prejudiced me against Jefferson and Franklin at the moment. |
I agree that hamilton did a great deal for this country, but he did have a lot of personal issues, and it always appeared to me that he had a huge inferiority complex.
Washington was a great leader, for that time and very interesting. Especially when you thank that he may have single handly started the French-Indian war.
Patrick Henry and his speech "give me liberty or give me death" still gives me goose bumps.
I am a fan of Ben Franklin too.
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 12:13 Post subject:
| Running Brewer wrote: |
I agree that hamilton did a great deal for this country, but he did have a lot of personal issues, and it always appeared to me that he had a huge inferiority complex.
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I'm still working my way through Ron Chernow's Hamilton bio and i'd say you are spot on with your analysis. His upbringing wasn't very good and it probably scarred him early on and brought about the personal issues and inferiority. He couldn't take criticism very well at all and lashed out easily when someone disagreed or critcised one of his idea. Add that to the very heated environment where the first political parties were being formed...
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 12:14 Post subject:
Coach, where's your answers???? Aren't you a history major?
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 12:40 Post subject:
| Running Brewer wrote: | | Coach, where's your answers???? Aren't you a history major? |
well...it's an interesting question...
there are things I like and dislike about just about all of them.
I was a history major, yes.
First off...Franklin I like, but yet...something about the guy rubs me the wrong way...maybe it's cause he got along with the French...I don't know.
Jefferson...brilliant...but a hypocrite...and the constitution wouldn't have been passed if he was in the country.
Washington...awesome leader...kind of a jerk as a person.
Hancock...a rich thief...not exactly a role model.
John Adams...please...If he lived today, he might be locked up, or at least on some medication.
Alexander Hamilton...insane in the membrane
I think I'd go with Sam Adams. Cause here was a guy with nothing to lose. And failed at pretty much everything else, except being a revolutionary.
And...He makes some good beer.
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 12:58 Post subject:
I personally don't think you can give credit to any one Founding Father. This was a true case of the sum of the parts being greater than the whole.
We have to thank each of them for their own unique thoughts that were somehow melded together to form the Constitution.
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 13:06 Post subject:
| andydp wrote: | | We have to thank each of them for their own unique thoughts that were somehow melded together to form the Constitution. |
And those other 2 documents as well.
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Posted: 10/22/04 - 13:06 Post subject:
| andydp wrote: | I personally don't think you can give credit to any one Founding Father. This was a true case of the sum of the parts being greater than the whole.
We have to thank each of them for their own unique thoughts that were somehow melded together to form the Constitution. |
Their opposite beliefs and positions helped moderate any one idea that was being put forth to create the original government.
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