Election Night News Coverage
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sonnylax
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 11:02 Post subject:
| cherylpf wrote: |
It was during the 2000 election coverage that I realized Dan Rather has passed his prime and should maintain a strict bedtime. The man was blubbering bizarre meaningless phrases by about 10:30...CBS should be entertaining just for the Dan Rather unscripted factor. |
The quotes that Dan said that night were funny at best, bizarre at worst. When Dan Rather called Florida for Gore at 7pm (eastern) with the 2000 polls in the Western panhandle of FLA still open for another hour, it was just another way they were trying to influence the election.
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Wicked Flea
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 11:21 Post subject:
PBS until The Daily Show comes on at 10pm.
Live and for a full hour!!!!
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megawill
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 11:24 Post subject:
| AlaninTX wrote: |
I like Chris Matthews, and MSNBC usually puts together the best panel of guest commentators--very balanced and informative people, in my opinion. Not so much the graphics and fluff, I just like the way the are handling reporting the news, covering the story, and I really do believe they are very balanced. |
That summarizes it quite accurately. They have views from the right and left but even those pundits Buchannan, Joe Trippi, Ron Reagan, Scarborough...don't necessarily take a partisian view in their analysis. Often times they will take a position in their analysis and you will see how their political beliefs do influence their reading of the situation which to me is quite fascinating to watch...on top of it all, Chris Matthews is excellent, insightful and fair/balanced...
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cherylpf
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 11:28 Post subject:
| Wicked Flea wrote: | The Daily Show comes on at 10pm.
Live and for a full hour!!!! |
I change my mind....Comedy Central!
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RexRacer
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 12:12 Post subject:
Will FOX be hiring any Bush cousins as behind-the-scenes polling analysts like they did in 2000? That worked so well for W. last time .
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runaroundsue
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 12:14 Post subject:
| RexRacer wrote: | Will FOX be hiring any Bush cousins as behind-the-scenes polling analysts like they did in 2000? That worked so well for W. last time . |
I'm assuming "these" cousins wouldn't be the same ones telling everyone to vote for Kerry. Bush has alot of distant cousins apparently.
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jrjo
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 12:17 Post subject:
| RexRacer wrote: | Will FOX be hiring any Bush cousins as behind-the-scenes polling analysts like they did in 2000? That worked so well for W. last time . |
According to my latest vast-right-wing-conspiracy newsletter, they're waiting in the wings to jump out as soon as Dan Rather pulls out his election morning Bush bash false document of the day.
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AlaninTX
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 12:38 Post subject:
Deep breaths, and let's try to ease up on the sarcasam. Great thread here.
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RexRacer
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 12:52 Post subject:
| AlaninTX wrote: | | Deep breaths, and let's try to ease up on the sarcasam. Great thread here. |
Point well taken.
I was being somewhat serious, though. As I recall, a Bush relative was the guy on FOX who pulled FL from the Gore to Bush column, which I believe was the first inkling that there would be a controversy. It was either not known or widely reported about the guy's ties to the candidiate earlier. Anyone else recall this?
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 12:54 Post subject:
| RexRacer wrote: |
Point well taken.
I was being somewhat serious, though. As I recall, a Bush relative was the guy on FOX who pulled FL from the Gore to Bush column, which I believe was the first inkling that there would be a controversy. It was either not known or widely reported about the guy's ties to the candidiate earlier. Anyone else recall this? |
Nope... got a link on that one?
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Wicked Flea
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 13:19 Post subject:
| RexRacer wrote: |
Point well taken.
I was being somewhat serious, though. As I recall, a Bush relative was the guy on FOX who pulled FL from the Gore to Bush column, which I believe was the first inkling that there would be a controversy. It was either not known or widely reported about the guy's ties to the candidiate earlier. Anyone else recall this? |
I think I saw reference to it on Fahrenheit 9/11.
From Fahrenheit 9/11 website:
FAHRENHEIT 9/11: Fox was the first network to call Florida for Bush. Before that, some other networks had called Florida for Gore, and they changed after Fox called it for Bush.
“With information provided from the Voter News Service, NBC was the first network to project Gore the winner in Florida at 7:48 pm. At 7:50 pm ,CNN and CBS project Gore the winner in Florida as well.” By 8:02 pm , all five networks and the Associated Press had called Gore the winner in Florida. Even the VNS called Gore the winner at 7:52 pm. At 2:16 am, Fox calls Florida for Bush, NBC follows at 2:16 am. ABC is the last network to call the Florida for Bush, at 2:20 am, while AP and VNS never call Florida for Bush. CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/02/02/
cnn.report/cnn.pdf
Ten minutes after the top of the hour, network excitement was again beginning to build. At 2:16 a.m., the call was made: Fox News Channel, with Bush's first cousin John Ellis running its election desk, was the first to project Florida -- and the presidency -- for the Texas governor. Within minutes, the other networks followed suit. "George Bush, Governor of Texas will become the 43rd President of the United States," CNN's Bernard Shaw announced atop a graphic montage of a smiling Bush. "At 18 minutes past two o'clock Eastern time, CNN declares that George Walker Bush has won Florida's 25 electoral votes and this should put him over the top."PBS: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/media/election2000/
election_night.html
FAHRENHEIT 9/11: The man who was in charge of the decision desk at FOX on election night was Bush’s first cousin, John Ellis.
“John Ellis, a first cousin of George W. Bush, ran the network's ‘decision desk’ during the 2000 election, and Fox was the first to name Bush the winner. Earlier, Ellis had made six phone calls to Cousin Bush during the vote-counting.” William O’Rourke, “Talk Radio Key to GOP Victory,” Chicago Sun-Times, December 3, 2002.
A Fox News consultant, John Ellis, who made judgments about presidential ‘calls’ on Election Night admits he was in touch with George W. Bush and FL Gov. Jeb Bush by telephone several times during the night, but denies breaking any rules. CNN, November 14, 2000; http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/
11/14/politics/main249357.shtml.
John Ellis, the Fox consultant who called Florida early for George Bush, had to stop writing about the campaign for the Boston Globe because of family ‘loyalty’ to Bush. CBS News, http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/
11/14/politics/main249357.shtml, November 14, 2000.
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Posted: 11/01/04 - 14:13 Post subject:
John Ellis!
Thank you, Flea.
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