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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 11:59    Post subject: Does international law = a suicide pact?
Some radical neoislamist country is about to gain WMD - does one need to wait until they use it to take action?
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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 12:09    Post subject:
The US, Great Britian, The Russians, (just name a few) all have a heck of a lot more WMD's than Iran.
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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 12:10    Post subject:
Cappy wrote:
The US, Great Britian, The Russians, (just name a few) all have a heck of a lot more WMD's than Iran.


yes but they're not neoislamic nutjob countries
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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 12:13    Post subject:
wanttorun100 wrote:
Cappy wrote:
The US, Great Britian, The Russians, (just name a few) all have a heck of a lot more WMD's than Iran.


yes but they're not neoislamic nutjob countries


Not in your mind, but I am sure they think that way about the aforementioned (that we and the others are nutjobs)
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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 12:25    Post subject:
Cappy wrote:
wanttorun100 wrote:
Cappy wrote:
The US, Great Britian, The Russians, (just name a few) all have a heck of a lot more WMD's than Iran.


yes but they're not neoislamic nutjob countries


Not in your mind, but I am sure they think that way about the aforementioned (that we and the others are nutjobs)



US, Great Britian, The Russians = nut job counties?


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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 12:32    Post subject:
wanttorun100 wrote:
Cappy wrote:
wanttorun100 wrote:
Cappy wrote:
The US, Great Britian, The Russians, (just name a few) all have a heck of a lot more WMD's than Iran.


yes but they're not neoislamic nutjob countries


Not in your mind, but I am sure they think that way about the aforementioned (that we and the others are nutjobs)



US, Great Britian, The Russians = nut job counties?


they = nutjob infadel Zionist.

what's so funny is the simialrities between Islam and Judiasm. Even the basis of Christianty is the same but the Christians got to wound up in idols according to Islamics as well as worshipping others (the saints). they belive in the same phophets as the old testament, consider Jesus a great man still, just a prophet though.

I think it's funny that the three main religeons of the area have the same basic beleifs and can't get along. when was the last time you saw a Battle of the Buddhas?
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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 12:40    Post subject: Re: Does international law = a suicide pact?
wanttorun100 wrote:
Some radical neoislamist country is about to gain WMD - does one need to wait until they use it to take action?


Yes. One does. If by action you mean invasion. There are other actions that don't require illegal measures.

Cappy's point, I believe, is that if all it takes is the mere having of WMD, by your logic it would have been legitimate for some other country to invade and occupy our land to make the world safer.
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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 12:51    Post subject: Re: Does international law = a suicide pact?
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Cappy's point, I believe, is that if all it takes is the mere having of WMD, by your logic it would have been legitimate for some other country to invade and occupy our land to make the world safer.


They would if they could. You realize that, don't you?
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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 12:59    Post subject: Re: Does international law = a suicide pact?
Thought Provoking wrote:
Gogirlgo wrote:
Cappy's point, I believe, is that if all it takes is the mere having of WMD, by your logic it would have been legitimate for some other country to invade and occupy our land to make the world safer.


They would if they could. You realize that, don't you?
we've been fortunate that we are isolated geographically from the nornal bickering and wars of Europe. This is one of our biggest plusses, we were able to develop into a co-hesive country (in most part) with minimal outside hostile influence.

a few technological advances then gave us the edge over our nieghbors as well.

now a days though i admit, If they could, They would. i think 9/11 makes that obvious
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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 13:58    Post subject: Re: Does international law = a suicide pact?
Gogirlgo wrote:
wanttorun100 wrote:
Some radical neoislamist country is about to gain WMD - does one need to wait until they use it to take action?


Yes. One does. If by action you mean invasion. There are other actions that don't require illegal measures.

Cappy's point, I believe, is that if all it takes is the mere having of WMD, by your logic it would have been legitimate for some other country to invade and occupy our land to make the world safer.



If a neoislamic country is an immediate threat does Intl Law mean you need to take it in the shorts first then act?

YIKES!
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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 16:18    Post subject: Re: Does international law = a suicide pact?
wanttorun100 wrote:
Gogirlgo wrote:
wanttorun100 wrote:
Some radical neoislamist country is about to gain WMD - does one need to wait until they use it to take action?


Yes. One does. If by action you mean invasion. There are other actions that don't require illegal measures.

Cappy's point, I believe, is that if all it takes is the mere having of WMD, by your logic it would have been legitimate for some other country to invade and occupy our land to make the world safer.



If a neoislamic country is an immediate threat does Intl Law mean you need to take it in the shorts first then act?
YIKES!


You'd have to define "immediate threat" more clearly but pretty much just like you can't lock up a would-be criminal until he actually is one, the same applies.
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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 16:26    Post subject: Re: Does international law = a suicide pact?
Gogirlgo wrote:
Cappy's point, I believe, is that if all it takes is the mere having of WMD, by your logic it would have been legitimate for some other country to invade and occupy our land to make the world safer.


You would be correct.
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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 16:41    Post subject: Re: Does international law = a suicide pact?
wanttorun100 wrote:
Some radical neoislamist country is about to gain WMD - does one need to wait until they use it to take action?


If by "take action" you mean military usage, then absolutely.
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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 20:00    Post subject:
If Iran actually acquires nukes and threatens to use them you can bet the farm that there will be some action taken, international law be damned. I refuse to believe that this world has become gutless enough to allow a hostile regime to make an attempt at dominance with the threat of nuclear war. It might be us, it might be Israel, it could be someone else. Somebody will step up to the plate and say enough is enough.
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PostPosted: 12/09/05 - 22:24    Post subject:
I am sure Israel is very nervous right now. I know they will be damn the International Law and retaliate quickly as well should they be attacked.

This needs to be carefully watched.
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