Did they find Noah's Ark?
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Aslowhiteguy
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 Posted: 06/30/06 - 15:33 Post subject: Did they find Noah's Ark?
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/has-noahs-ark-been-found/20060629173309990001
Has Noah's Ark Been Found?
Christian Archaeology Team Believes It's Found Biblical Remains
(June 29) - Texas archaeologists believe they may have located the remains of Noah's Ark in Iran's Elburz mountain range.
"I can't imagine what it could be if it is not the Ark," said Arch Bonnema of the Bible Archaeology Search and Exploration (B.A.S.E) Institute, a Christian archeology organization dedicated to looking for biblical artifacts.
Bonnema and the other B.A.S.E. Institute members hiked for seven hours in the mountains northwest of Tehran, climbing 13,000 feet before making the apparent discovery.
"We got up to this object, nestled in the side of a hill," said Robert Cornuke, a member of the B.A.S.E. Institute. "We found something that has my heart skipping a beat."
At first, they didn't dare to hope it was the biblical boat.
"It wasn't impressive at first," Cornuke said. "Certainly didn't think it to be Noah's Ark. But when we got close, we were amazed. It looked similar to wood."
In addition, some B.A.SE. members say, their discovery didn't look very distinctive.
"It looked like the deck of any boat today," Bonnema said.
Long Search for the Ark
The Bible places the Ark in the mountains of Ararat, a mountain range theologians believe spans hundreds of miles, which the team says is consistent with their find in Iran.
The Bible also describes the Ark's dimensions as being 300 cubits by 50 cubits -- about the size of a small aircraft carrier. The B.A.S.E. Institute's discovery is similar in size and scale.
"It is provocative to think that this could be the lost ark of Noah," Cornuke said.
Throughout history, people have been searching for the Ark to help prove God's existence.
"There's this idea, if we can prove that the Ark existed then we can prove that the story existed, and more importantly, we can prove that God existed," said Bruce Feiler, author of "Where God Was Born."
Previous scholars have searched for the Ark on Mount Ararat in Turkey.
"Czar Nicholas, actually, in 1916 sent two expeditions to photograph it on top of Mount Ararat," said Feiler.
One former U.S. president, Feiler said, looked for it in the mountains of Iran.
"There is a story that Jimmy Carter, on his way to visit the Shah of Iran in 1977, purposefully flew over it," he said.
As recently as March, researcher claimed to have satellite photos that proved the presence of Ark remains. The B.A.S.E institute hopes the physical evidence they've brought back from Iran will hold the answer to this enduring mystery.
"People will always be looking for it, always be skeptical, always be excited of the search," Cornuke said. "But I think we found something here that's very notable."
The B.A.S.E. Institute's samples are being examined at labs in Texas and Florida. B.A.S.E officials concede that there would be no way to conclusively prove that their finding is actually Noah's Ark.
So the hunt goes on. The biggest hurdle in identifying Noah's Ark comes down to "gopher wood." The Bible says the Ark was made of gopher wood but no one knows what it is.
ABC News' Chris Cuomo reported this story for "Good Morning America."
06-29-06 17:31 EDT
Copyright 2006 ABCNEWS.com
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Posted: 06/30/06 - 15:43 Post subject:
Well...they have found:
Hunley
Titanic
Bismark
Monitor
And they were all deep water wrecks....
It is not beyond possibility that they found the Ark. I would have thought they should have taken soil samples...afterall there should be DNA evidence of all that animal poop....
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Posted: 06/30/06 - 16:03 Post subject:
Texans found it?.....sure it wasn't just an old fishin' barge?.....were there a bunch of rusty old Lone Star beer cans layin' around?.....
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Posted: 07/01/06 - 09:17 Post subject:
It'll be very interesting to know for certain their findings. It will be a great event for Christians worldwide. It will (hopefully) make those complete non-believers have some of the physical proof they need.
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Posted: 07/01/06 - 20:44 Post subject:
| Ms. Jenn wrote: | | It'll be very interesting to know for certain their findings. It will be a great event for Christians worldwide. It will (hopefully) make those complete non-believers have some of the physical proof they need. |
why just Christians? Do they have a stronghold on the ark belief? those "nonbelievers" would probably mark it down as "historical event" and probably question if the entire earth flooded or just small part.
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Posted: 07/01/06 - 22:51 Post subject:
| runaroundsue wrote: | | Ms. Jenn wrote: | | It'll be very interesting to know for certain their findings. It will be a great event for Christians worldwide. It will (hopefully) make those complete non-believers have some of the physical proof they need. |
why just Christians? Do they have a stronghold on the ark belief? those "nonbelievers" would probably mark it down as "historical event" and probably question if the entire earth flooded or just small part. |
Because many unbelievers are naysayers on the worldwide flood. I would say Christians believe in the ark story more so than non believers because it's in the bible. I can't say for sure the story of Noah wasn't passed down by word of mouth from generation to generation, but I know it was written in the bible to tell of God's power and vengence.
Events can be both historical and biblical. Biblical events are historical because they happened in the past, thus being a part of our history whether you are Christian or not. The main difference on your view is whether or not you're a Christian.
Actually finding the ark on top of that mountain will prove there was a flood deep enough to have that boat reach the peak of that mountain.
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Posted: 07/01/06 - 23:20 Post subject:
| Ms. Jenn wrote: | | It'll be very interesting to know for certain their findings. It will be a great event for Christians worldwide. It will (hopefully) make those complete non-believers have some of the physical proof they need. |
But how are they going to prove it is the Ark, and not just some boat from a long time ago?
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Posted: 07/01/06 - 23:38 Post subject:
| camelia bedelia wrote: | | Ms. Jenn wrote: | | It'll be very interesting to know for certain their findings. It will be a great event for Christians worldwide. It will (hopefully) make those complete non-believers have some of the physical proof they need. |
But how are they going to prove it is the Ark, and not just some boat from a long time ago? |
Cambed.....where you been?.......I was beginning to think you turned into a fossil....... 
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Posted: 07/01/06 - 23:49 Post subject:
| bburgoyne26 wrote: | | camelia bedelia wrote: | | Ms. Jenn wrote: | | It'll be very interesting to know for certain their findings. It will be a great event for Christians worldwide. It will (hopefully) make those complete non-believers have some of the physical proof they need. |
But how are they going to prove it is the Ark, and not just some boat from a long time ago? |
Cambed.....where you been?.......I was beginning to think you turned into a fossil....... |
No, I just evolved into a higher form of poster. One who does't. 
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Posted: 07/02/06 - 01:00 Post subject:
| camelia bedelia wrote: | | Ms. Jenn wrote: | | It'll be very interesting to know for certain their findings. It will be a great event for Christians worldwide. It will (hopefully) make those complete non-believers have some of the physical proof they need. |
But how are they going to prove it is the Ark, and not just some boat from a long time ago? |
not that I'm real familiar with the Koran...but I think that it says something about an ark also, which is more what I'm questioning. The ark does NOT solidify or prove anything Christian, it backs up the the OT.....and Islamic and Muslim beliefs are pretty similiar to OT. It's the New Testament that Christians would need proof of to believe in our savior. So my question is why the discovery of a boat is a big Christian day??? It won't change complete nonbelievers like you say. What I'm saying is it probably won't change any other religious beliefs either. In fact, the Koran says the flood didn't cover the entire earth and the ark only carried people so I'd think true nonbelievers might find that the discovery of the ark might find the Koran's version more fathomable than believing that 2 of every animal came aboard a vessel. So I'm thinking it might be a big day for Muslims.
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Posted: 07/02/06 - 01:17 Post subject:
do you ever think that maybe there was this really good party back in the day, and in the middle of the party this guy bursts in the door - fresh in from a torrential downpour and announces to all the guests "it's raining like a mofo! i'm going to need a boat to get home!" and then leaves, not before stealing the host's two cats, coincidentally a male and female.
one party guest says to another "who's that guy", to which the slurred reply came "noaahdea". another guest over hears the conversation, and the story really snowballed from there.
personally, i'm going to start looking for the yellow brick road.
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Posted: 07/02/06 - 01:29 Post subject:
ps. part of believing in something means you don't need proof (it also means some 'rules' and 'stories' are open to interpretation).
exhibit A: i'm fully *AWARE* of my existence. i don't even know how it's possible that i know i exist - but i do. here i am. and here you are. if that's the result of some atoms exploding a bajillion years ago - well f*ked if i know anything about anything then.
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Posted: 07/02/06 - 01:32 Post subject:
| blue wrote: | ps. part of believing in something means you don't need proof (it also means some 'rules' and 'stories' are open to interpretation).
exhibit A: i'm fully *AWARE* of my existence. i don't even know how it's possible that i know i exist - but i do. here i am. and here you are. if that's the result of some atoms exploding a bajillion years ago - well f*ked if i know anything about anything then. |
true dat
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Posted: 07/02/06 - 06:44 Post subject:
| runaroundsue wrote: | | Ms. Jenn wrote: | | It'll be very interesting to know for certain their findings. It will be a great event for Christians worldwide. It will (hopefully) make those complete non-believers have some of the physical proof they need. |
why just Christians? Do they have a stronghold on the ark belief? those "nonbelievers" would probably mark it down as "historical event" and probably question if the entire earth flooded or just small part. |
many cultures have the "Great Flood" listed in them. The legend of Gilgamesh, the oldest written epic, out of the middle east also includes the Great Flood.
The proof of the Ark does not make proof of a god. it just means that a guy named Noah took his family and several animals aboard his ship. I still consider The Bible a collection of stories of man's history in that region
and attempt to explain what has happened/is happenning to mankind. Just like the Iliad, the Oddysey, and the many myths/stories that man has created to explain his existence.
I do think that it is cool that they found the ark. many pieces of the Bible is becoming proved of the existence. They recently found Sodom and Gommorah they beleive...i doubt they'll find a salt carving of a woman running looking over her shoulder though.
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Posted: 07/02/06 - 06:49 Post subject:
| Ms. Jenn wrote: | | runaroundsue wrote: | | Ms. Jenn wrote: | | It'll be very interesting to know for certain their findings. It will be a great event for Christians worldwide. It will (hopefully) make those complete non-believers have some of the physical proof they need. |
why just Christians? Do they have a stronghold on the ark belief? those "nonbelievers" would probably mark it down as "historical event" and probably question if the entire earth flooded or just small part. |
Because many unbelievers are naysayers on the worldwide flood. I would say Christians believe in the ark story more so than non believers because it's in the bible. I can't say for sure the story of Noah wasn't passed down by word of mouth from generation to generation, but I know it was written in the bible to tell of God's power and vengence.
Events can be both historical and biblical. Biblical events are historical because they happened in the past, thus being a part of our history whether you are Christian or not. The main difference on your view is whether or not you're a Christian.
Actually finding the ark on top of that mountain will prove there was a flood deep enough to have that boat reach the peak of that mountain. |
I remember watching a show a few years ago about the Great Flood and the continued search for The Ark. one theory is that a natural retaining wall along side a lake gave way. I can't remember if they said earthquake, volvanoe or what. Apparently this was an elevated lake much like what happenend in New Orleans. when the wall gave out the hundreds of trillion gallons of water came rushing down in a rush and greatly overloaded the natural drainage system.
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