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 Posted: 05/13/05 - 10:25 Post subject:
the book was moved, not banned. I see no problem with that.
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 10:51 Post subject:
| rtpd113 wrote: | | the book was moved, not banned. I see no problem with that. |
Hi--it was made unviewable by the children. Let's not semantics our way out of the issue.
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 11:04 Post subject:
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Hi--it was made unviewable by the children. Let's not semantics our way out of the issue. |
so what. If I moved a religious history of Islam from the religion section to the history section would that be making it unviewable. No it is in a more appropriate place for it. It is not semantics it is more practical and appropriate.
If there were a kids guide to firearm use, written in the same context would not that be more appropriate away from the kids section and in a more adult area. Practicality. Stop.
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 11:10 Post subject:
After reading the article it seems fair. There is a questionable book that was moved from the children's section to the parents section of the library. Since this is such a controversial topic and some parents would not want their children to be able to just grab the book on their own this gives them the opportunity to be able to control what their child is exposed to while allowing other parents to permit their children to read the book if the parent is okay with that.
It's the best possible outcome, I think.
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camelia bedelia
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 11:13 Post subject:
| rtpd113 wrote: |
so what. If I moved a religious history of Islam from the religion section to the history section would that be making it unviewable. No it is in a more appropriate place for it. It is not semantics it is more practical and appropriate.
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No, it wouldn't make it unviewable, as long as it was cataloged correctly, adults (presumably who would be reading the book) would still have access to it. Moving a kids book out of the kids section does make it inaccessible to kids.
| Quote: | | If there were a kids guide to firearm use, written in the same context would not that be more appropriate away from the kids section and in a more adult area. Practicality. Stop. |
Kids reading about playing with guns doesn't seem quite the same as kids reading about families they (or their friends) could very easily be a part of. That said, if the book about guns was an age appropriate book about a boy that goes hunting and uses a gun, it should stay in the chldren's section.
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 11:17 Post subject:
Moving a book into the parent's section doesn't necessarily mean it's moved out of the children's section. In our library the Parent's collection is in the same room as the children's picture books. They are cataloged in the Parent's Collection, and anyone looking for that book could find it there, including children.
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 11:23 Post subject:
The intent of this law was to put the control of access to this book in the hands of parents. There are definately slippery slope arguments that can be made here.
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camelia bedelia
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 11:26 Post subject:
| Library Chick wrote: | | Moving a book into the parent's section doesn't necessarily mean it's moved out of the children's section. In our library the Parent's collection is in the same room as the children's picture books. They are cataloged in the Parent's Collection, and anyone looking for that book could find it there, including children. |
Library Chick - does the state legislature typically get this involved in where books are placed in the library?
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 11:30 Post subject:
| camelia bedelia wrote: |
Kids reading about playing with guns doesn't seem quite the same as kids reading about families they (or their friends) could very easily be a part of. That said, if the book about guns was an age appropriate book about a boy that goes hunting and uses a gun, it should stay in the chldren's section. |
my point Amy was that if it is a "kids book" and they are consistent with topics they deem appropriate to move to a different section more appropriate then so what.
I have no problem with the book being in the library. I feel that the library made the right decision. It recieves tax payer money, they are not banning the book, they are making an administrative decision. I would have more problem if they moved the book out completely.
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camelia bedelia
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 11:33 Post subject:
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my point Amy was that if it is a "kids book" and they are consistent with topics they deem appropriate to move to a different section more appropriate then so what.
I have no problem with the book being in the library. I feel that the library made the right decision. It recieves tax payer money, they are not banning the book, they are making an administrative decision. I would have more problem if they moved the book out completely. |
But the library didn't make the decision; the legislature did - right?
And I guess I disagree that a book that deals with two people loving each other is so inappropriate for young kids.
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 11:38 Post subject:
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But the library didn't make the decision; the legislature did - right?
And I guess I disagree that a book that deals with two people loving each other is so inappropriate for young kids. |
That is up to the parents to decide. Let it be in the parents section then if they want it deem it appropriate for their children.
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 11:42 Post subject:
I disagree with it being unaccessible to child......what book in a library is unaccessible to a 5-7 year child???? None. They just need mom or dad to reach up for it. Right now, I want control of what my soon to-be 9 year old is reading and that is why he doesn't have his own library card and why he doesn't go to the public library on his own. My eleven year old is up for discussion 
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camelia bedelia
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 11:45 Post subject:
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That is up to the parents to decide. Let it be in the parents section then if they want it deem it appropriate for their children. |
I agree with you that two men falling in love is a sensitive subject for some people, though obviously I disagree that it should be. So on one hand I think, fine, let them put it away and let the parents decide. But on the other hand, I think, whether someone likes it or notw, homosexuals are part of society - always have been and always will be. Why should we be trying to hide the evidence of that and pretend "they" don't exist?
If a parent has a problem with homosexuality, they can use the book as an opportunity to pass on their views.
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 11:49 Post subject:
As a Christian, I wouldn't have a problem with my kids being exposed to material that made them ask questions about sexual orientation. But some, mostly those residing on the religious right, seem to really fear this topic.
Maybe their solution is to not let their kids go into the library at all. They could go in for them and hand pick the books that they deem acceptable. I don't agree with this style of parenting, but it seems like a more socially agreeable solution.
My hope is to foster the kind of relationship with my kids where they are comfortable having open dialogue about any topic. I don't think there is an age limit as to when to begin this kind of relationship.
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Posted: 05/13/05 - 11:50 Post subject:
| TOsteve wrote: | As a Christian, I wouldn't have a problem with my kids being exposed to material that made them ask questions about sexual orientation. But some, mostly those residing on the religious right, seem to really fear this topic.
Maybe their solution is to not let their kids go into the library at all. They could go in for them and hand pick the books that they deem acceptable. I don't agree with this style of parenting, but it seems like a more socially agreeable solution.
My hope is to foster the kind of relationship with my kids where they are comfortable having open dialogue about any topic. I don't think there is an age limit as to when to begin this kind of relationship. |
Now that makes sense to me.
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