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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 11:00    Post subject: Candy flavored cigs..whadya think?
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050211/ap_on_he_me/candy_flavored_cigarettes

Minn. Governor Seeks Candy Cigarette Ban

By BRIAN BAKST, Associated Press Writer

ST. PAUL - Cigarettes infused with lime, vanilla, berry and other candy flavors would be pulled off Minnesota store shelves under a proposed ban by Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who accused the tobacco industry Thursday of marketing the specialty products to teens.

"They are clearly undertaking a marketing campaign to promote and market sweetened and candy-flavored cigarettes as a way to attract new smokers and expand market share among youth in Minnesota," Pawlenty, a Republican, said. "This is a terrible practice by these tobacco companies and it needs to be stopped."

Public health officials in two other states — Massachusetts and Michigan — have sent letters to cigarette makers asking them to halt sales of the flavored cigarettes. The officials questioned whether such sales violate a 1998 agreement by the tobacco industry not to target their products to young people.

Pawlenty appears to be the first governor to promote an outright ban. The products carry names like "Kuaui Kolada," "Twista Lime" and "Winter Warm Toffee."

"The premise that we market to youth, there's no truth to that," said Fred McConnell, a spokesman for R.J. Reynolds Tobacco, which makes the flavored Camel brand cigarettes singled out by Pawlenty. "We market to adult smokers only."

Although it is illegal to sell cigarettes to minors, Pawlenty said the flavored cigarettes are drawing in teen smokers anyway. Advertisements in Rolling Stone, Cosmopolitan and Glamour magazines have raised the products' profile among young people, he said.

McConnell said R.J. Reynolds only buys ads in magazines with a predominantly adult readership.

Pawlenty cited preliminary data from national youth smoking survey last year as evidence the flavored cigarettes were growing in popularity among teens. The survey of 1,600 smokers between ages 16 and 25 found that 16- and 17-year-olds were two to three times more likely to try the flavored cigarettes than those 20 and older.

A 2004 Minnesota survey found that nearly 27 percent of high school seniors admitted to smoking at least once in a month, as did about 15 percent of freshmen.

Rep. Tim Wilkin, R-Eagan, said the governor's proposal probably goes further than he's willing to. "Personally, I'm not big on banning things. There's an element of freedom involved," Wilkin said.

Wilkin stressed that he hadn't reviewed Pawlenty's plan, but his view is important because the bill would be heard in the House Commerce and Financial Institutions Committee that he leads.

Pawlenty said he would consider similar limitations on the sale of candy-flavored liquor if he was convinced the sweetened drinks are aimed at youth.

In a related development, Republican Rep. Ray Cox of Northfield introduced a bill Thursday to impose a new fee on cigarettes at the wholesale level. The fee would be based on the number of cigarettes distributors sell in Minnesota.

Pawlenty said he is open to the concept, but he withheld his endorsement. He's also taking a wait-and-see approach on bills to raise the cigarette tax by as much as $1-a-pack. Pawlenty, who has pledged not to raise taxes, said he would want another tax reduced in exchange.

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So, whadya think?... are flavored cigs a violation of the industry agreeing to not market to kids? I dunno. Either way, Gov. Pawlenty sticks his neck out a whole lot more than Ventura ever did. I give the guy credit. He's out there fightin' the good fight.
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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 11:05    Post subject:
Is Eli Lilly secretly marketing Skittles to teen agers?

/I had candy cigarettes as a kid and I still thought that 'real' smoking was nasty.
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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 11:06    Post subject:
thumbs up to the Governor

thumbs down to Candy Cig's
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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 11:07    Post subject:
purple hayes wrote:

/I had candy cigarettes as a kid and I still thought that 'real' smoking was nasty.



I thought the candy cigarettes were nasty.
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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 11:13    Post subject:
pokychick wrote:
I thought the candy cigarettes were nasty.


I had no discretion as a youngster. Any candy was good candy.

/I'm still looking for a good 12 step program for sugar addiction. My current SA medallion is yogurt-covered.
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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 11:26    Post subject:
purple hayes wrote:


I had no discretion as a youngster. Any candy was good candy.

/I'm still looking for a good 12 step program for sugar addiction. My current SA medallion is yogurt-covered.


LOL

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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 11:28    Post subject:
purple hayes wrote:
Is Eli Lilly secretly marketing Skittles to teen agers?

uh....what?

Anyway, I don't trust anything Brown and Williamson, aka RJR, does. Of course they are marketing to kids. What adult smoker wants lime cigarettes? (and what about tobacco plus fruit flavors sounds good?) Good for the governor for taking a stand on this.

As for regular candy cigarettes, I loved them. They were made out of the same stuff the lick-m-ade fun dip stick was (which, lets face it, was the best part of fun dip) But then, I haven't found much candy I don't like. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 11:39    Post subject:
I loved candy cigarettes, especially the kind that "smoked". If you blew into it the little puff of candy smoke went out the other end. Those candy ones never made me want to really smoke. I watched my great-aunt die of emphysemia(sp?)... not something I was really interested in.
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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 12:29    Post subject:
I thought they got rid of those years ago. dunno
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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 12:59    Post subject:
I loved candy cigarettes as a kid except I was never allowed them.

I guess my mom thought I would nosedive straight into crackpipes. dunno

Now, just to spite her, I don't make my bed in the mornings. Mad
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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 13:10    Post subject:
akern wrote:
I thought they got rid of those years ago. dunno

Unless I'm reading this wrong, they are talking about the real, tobacco kind of cigarettes, with candy flavors in them, in addition to the tobacco. Not candy. Candy-flavored. No tobacco sounds good to me but that sounds especially bad, like someone blowing smoke in your face while you're eating or something.
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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 13:17    Post subject:
cherylpf wrote:

Unless I'm reading this wrong, they are talking about the real, tobacco kind of cigarettes, with candy flavors in them, in addition to the tobacco. Not candy. Candy-flavored. No tobacco sounds good to me but that sounds especially bad, like someone blowing smoke in your face while you're eating or something.


Yeah, that's how I read it too. And it sounds like a direct ploy to attract younger smokers.


But, I chose to digress on the candy cig issue.
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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 13:20    Post subject:
airehead wrote:


Yeah, that's how I read it too. And it sounds like a direct ploy to attract younger smokers.


But, I chose to digress on the candy cig issue.

I like candy. I want to go to wonka world.
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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 14:11    Post subject:
Well if they ban candy flavored cigarettes, are they going to also ban hookah tobacco? It's also fruity flavored and candy-ish (for lack of a better word). Not that I advocate either of them, but it would be ridiculous to say that one's illegal, or violates the 1998 law, while the other isn't/doesn't. They're both flavored tobacco, what makes the cigarettes worse?
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PostPosted: 02/11/05 - 14:13    Post subject:
cyclops wrote:
Well if they ban candy flavored cigarettes, are they going to also ban hookah tobacco? It's also fruity flavored and candy-ish (for lack of a better word). Not that I advocate either of them, but it would be ridiculous to say that one's illegal, or violates the 1998 law, while the other isn't/doesn't. They're both flavored tobacco, what makes the cigarettes worse?


Second-hand smoke.
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