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JNasty
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 Posted: 08/26/02 - 17:48 Post subject: Calling all Neutral or supinator runners !!!
I just got back from a very good podiatrist in my area and he watched me run for a while and told me I have tendintions in my left leg because i was wearing motion control shoes/stability shoes instead of neutral shoes......Any other people supinate or have neutral gate???? What kind of shoes are u wearing???
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kcr
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Posted: 08/27/02 - 11:03 Post subject:
I have a high arch and under pronate, my foot does not roll in to absorb any shock. I must wear cushioned shoes with extra cushioned inserts. I wear the Nike Air Pegasus 2002 and love them.
Good luck with the tendonitis 
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flarunner
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Posted: 08/27/02 - 12:10 Post subject:
Hey JNasty. Sorry about the tendonitis. ice, ice baby...
My left foot has a neutral strike. My right foot is very rigid and strikes on the lateral aspect of the forefoot. I wear the Nike Skylons, which has cushioning in both the heel and the forefoot.
Since Nike has removed this shoe from it's line, I've been looking at other brands of shoes. One that I like is the NB 2021 (now 2022), since it also has cushioning in the heel and forefoot.
Whatever shoe you go with, wear them around your house for a couple of hours to make sure they feel good. Also make sure you can return them to the store if they don't feel right.
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monk25
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Posted: 08/29/02 - 12:16 Post subject:
If you are neutral, (like I am) you can wear Asics Gel Cumulus IV of Gel Nimbus IV. Check here for reviews of other cushioned or neutral shoes.
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jrjo
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Posted: 08/30/02 - 14:04 Post subject: Bing, bing, bing, bing
Same story I had last year. The motion control/stability shoes caused my plantar fasciitis. After having a runner physical therapist watch me on the treadmill and look me over totally, he said, "You underpronate". Well, no wonder the motion controllers killed me.
So now I'm a cushion seeker and happy camper. I alternate between pairs of Asics Cumulus, Asics Nimbus, and my fav, just ending production, Brooks Hyperion-IVs (do have one fresh pair left  ). Monk's link there highlights alot of cushioned models. My best luck has been with the cushioned models from Asics, Adidas, Brooks, and <gasp> a pair of Nike's back in '99 I got for a bargain, didn't realize at the time were cushioned and treated me well. It should have been a hint I needed cushioning and not the stabiliy cement shoes.
Good luck and let us know what you buy and how they feel.
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JNasty
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Posted: 08/30/02 - 18:04 Post subject:
i actually bought the adidas galaxy the other day and soo far i got a speed workout on wednesday on them and i got 7.2 miles on them today........i like them soo far....they feel good......i hope they treat me good.
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coachmarkos
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Posted: 09/04/02 - 13:00 Post subject:
I am a neutral runner with very high arches.
I have stayed loyal to adidas over the years. All their cushioned shoes have worked well for me: Boston, Gazelle, Ride, ClimaCool, and now the Supernova Cushion.
I know many runners respond well to asics cushion shoes as well. And I have heard nothing but great things about Mizuno. Never tried them, but what do I know?
The adidas have worked for me.
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Running Brewer
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Posted: 09/04/02 - 14:47 Post subject:
JC, excuse the hijack here...
I am not sure what I am. I run on the outside of my feet but upon impact my feet roll inwards and that impact is causing my pirformis problems. He told me that I need to avoid shoes with the heel cup that is not veritcally aligned. I was running in Asics gt 2070s and having some pirformis<?> muscle issues. That was because when my feet roll inward my knees and hips twist. When I switched to the Saucony Trigon the arches were too flexible and this caused one of the bones in my left foot to pop out of place. I am now quite perplexed and looking forward to my orthodics to hopefully solve these problems. Any idea which type of shoe I should be looking at? Also, what about when the orthodics come in, what kind of shoe do you where then?
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coachmarkos
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Posted: 09/04/02 - 16:20 Post subject:
I would say that if you roll inward, you are a pronator and need stability shoes. That is my very simplistic take on it. Since I am a nuetral runner, I don't have much experience with this.
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Running Brewer
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Posted: 09/04/02 - 16:28 Post subject:
| coachmarkos wrote: | | I would say that if you roll inward, you are a pronator and need stability shoes. That is my very simplistic take on it. Since I am a nuetral runner, I don't have much experience with this. |
I agree with you... maybe I am a supinator that pronates  Either way I am all messed up. Come on orthodics
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flarunner
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Posted: 09/04/02 - 19:54 Post subject:
| Batjac wrote: | | coachmarkos wrote: | | I would say that if you roll inward, you are a pronator and need stability shoes. That is my very simplistic take on it. Since I am a nuetral runner, I don't have much experience with this. |
I agree with you... maybe I am a supinator that pronates Either way I am all messed up. Come on orthodics |
Batjac, most people (a good 75% of the population) either pronate or over-pronate. Only about 10% of the population actually supinates. The rest are neutral runners. So you either supinate or pronate, of course, to varying degrees.
When the foot strikes the ground, usually the lateral side of the heel strikes first. The foot then rolls toward the medial side. The amount of the roll indicates to what degree one pronates or is neutral. Someone who actually supinates has little to no inward roll.
I myself actually supinate on my right foot, and am neutral on my left foot.
As for shoes to go with your orthotics, make sure the midsole of the shoe is dense enough to uphold the orthotic. Most cushioned shoes have a midsole made of EVA, which is soft and squishy. Maybe a midsole made with polyurathane would be hold up better with your orthotics. Also, a straighter lasted shoe might do better.
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Running Brewer
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Posted: 09/05/02 - 08:45 Post subject:
Flarunner,
Thanks for the input. The Dr. told me to find a straight lasted shoe as well. He also said it may be a little challenge but go as straight as I can come up with. Thanks again!
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