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sonnylax
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 Posted: 11/18/04 - 09:43 Post subject: Boy gets 85 lashes & dies for breaking his Ramadan fast!
More news from the lovely peaceful religion of Islam:
| Quote: | A 14 year old boy died on Thursday, November 11th, after having received 85 lashes; according to the ruling of the Mullah judge of the public circuit court in the town of Sanandadj he was guilty of breaking his fast during the month of Ramadan.
The Kurdish site Rojeh´heh Lât reports that the young man´s identity has not been disclosed. He was scheduled for burial on Saturday, November 13th (after 3 days at the local morgue), in the cemetery of Beheshteh Mohammadi in Sanandadj. However due to the public´s realization of the events surrounding the boy´s circumstances the cemetery was stormed [in protest] and his burial did not take place.
According to informed sources, supervisors have instructed that the burial take place in the presence of his closest relatives, surveyed by security forces. |
http://www.iranpressnews.com/english/source/001327.html
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Wicked Flea
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Posted: 11/18/04 - 09:48 Post subject:
The Supreme Court has consistently ruled that while freedom of belief is protected, there is no right to freedom to act on those beliefs in a way that hurts other. Despite this and at the urging of Christian Science lobbyists, in 1974, the federal government mandated that states that receive child abuse prevention grants have laws that would exempt parents from the duty to provide medical care to ill children if they instead relied on "spiritual treatment." Since that time, close to 300 deaths of children of Christian Scientists and fundamentalist faith healing groups have been well documented, and there are more out there that are hidden from public view. These children died slow, agonizingly painful deaths from such easily preventable or treatable disorders and diseases such as appendicitis, pneumonia, measles or diabetes. They also exposed others in the community to infectious diseases and increase the risk to even those around them who are immunized.
Shauntay Walker was a 4-year-old girl who died in CA in 1984 from untreated meningitis, of a type now preventable with immunizations. She had not received any childhood vaccinations while the family dog was fully immunized. The law required it for the dog, but not for the child. We live in a country in which the laws that protect pets are better than those that protect children.
Ashley King died at age 12 from bone cancer. Because her parents neglected her medical needs beyond the time medical care could have been effective, a judge allowed her to be placed in a Christian Science sanatorium to live out her last few weeks. There she screamed in pain. Rather than getting her painkillers or a doctor, her Christian Science nurse scolded her, telling her that her pain wasn't real and that she was disturbing the other residents........
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AlaninTX
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Posted: 11/18/04 - 09:59 Post subject:
If we all look hard enough, we can find all sorts of wrong doing in the name of any religion.
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Wicked Flea
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Posted: 11/18/04 - 10:01 Post subject:
| AlaninTX wrote: | | If we all look hard enough, we can find all sorts of wrong doing in the name of any religion. |
And that was my point.
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sonnylax
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Posted: 11/18/04 - 10:08 Post subject:
| AlaninTX wrote: | | If we all look hard enough, we can find all sorts of wrong doing in the name of any religion. |
True, but I think Islam takes it to a much higher extreme.
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Pug
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Posted: 11/18/04 - 10:09 Post subject:
| sonnylax wrote: |
True, but I think Islam takes it to a much higher extreme. |
So, you're saying that while we may suck, they suck worse. Gotcha. 
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elkid
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Posted: 11/18/04 - 10:13 Post subject:
| sonnylax wrote: | | True, but I think Islam takes it to a much higher extreme. |
I disagree. Historically speaking, more wars have been fought in the name of Christianity than any other religion. From Constantine the Great to Pius the 12th there are countless examples.
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sonnylax
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Posted: 11/18/04 - 10:15 Post subject:
| Pug wrote: |
So, you're saying that while we may suck, they suck worse. Gotcha. |
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kristin31
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Posted: 11/18/04 - 10:57 Post subject:
| elkid wrote: |
I disagree. Historically speaking, more wars have been fought in the name of Christianity than any other religion. From Constantine the Great to Pius the 12th there are countless examples. |
Let's not forget the Inquisition!
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sonnylax
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Posted: 11/18/04 - 10:58 Post subject:
| kristin31 wrote: |
Let's not forget the Inquisition! |
And those are truly relevant in 2004, how?
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Posted: 11/18/04 - 10:59 Post subject:
I agree with all of you. Death from religion whether a war or lack of immunization or lashing a 14-yr old, is all wrong no matter how it's spun.
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phillycat
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Posted: 11/18/04 - 11:01 Post subject:
| kristin31 wrote: |
Let's not forget the Inquisition! |
Apparently that is not so bad seeing as the Inquisition refers to "us" not "them"
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Posted: 11/18/04 - 11:11 Post subject:
| AlaninTX wrote: | | If we all look hard enough, we can find all sorts of wrong doing in the name of any religion. |
Alan, I'd give you the 'peacemaker' award and I really don't mean to go off topic, but it seems like your obvious hint went unheard. 
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kristin31
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Posted: 11/18/04 - 11:19 Post subject:
| sonnylax wrote: |
And those are truly relevant in 2004, how? |
If you are tracing a history of violence and religion, it's relevant. Violence is violence, plain and simple.
More currently -
Sisters of Mercy (the orphanage in Ireland - anyone remember that expose'?)
Elizabeth Smart?
The couple in Maine who threw their daughters in the oven because they were "possessed by the devil"? They were followers of some bizarre offshoot of a "Christian" church.
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Posted: 11/18/04 - 11:27 Post subject:
Supposedly things are trying to change. With the murder of the aid worker just recently, there are some people in Iraq who are finally putting their foot down to the pointless extremist violence. I predict that her death will , although sad, in the end serve a very good purpose.
Wrong has been done in every religion. Bashing one or the other is veering from the subject at hand, which is a little boy dying because of the lashings.
Imho, that is terribly wrong, but other countries (religion aside) have been doing much worse for much longer. I.E. genital mutilations for little girls, prostitution of children, and on and on.
The fact that countries will protect their livestock and property better than their children is ASTOUNDING.
Doesn't anyone remember being a kid when they grow up and seek to change that?
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