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 Posted: 12/04/04 - 10:54 Post subject: Apprentice (I love this show)
Discuss amongst yourselves.
BUH Bye Ivana!!  Don't let the door hit you!
Can I be Carolyn? I love her.
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Cappy
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Posted: 12/04/04 - 10:55 Post subject:
Stop the presses. I watched the show last night. She deserved to be fired (I think her name had more to do with it than her stripping) b-bye
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Posted: 12/04/04 - 11:00 Post subject:
| cherylpf wrote: | | Can I be Carolyn? I love her. |
She's a great lady. Very funny and likable, which doesn't come across that much on the show.
I loved how she set up slutty Ivana. "How many have tasks have you won? And you? And you?" HA! Made her admit she was a loser.
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Posted: 12/04/04 - 11:03 Post subject:
yeah it was a good one...
so I would have fired her NOT for stripping, but for the fact that her stripping was a knee-jerk reaction to not HAVING A PLAN IN THE FIRST PLACE. And for being a LOUSY LEADER from the get-go. And for being a lousy manager on the street.
yeah yeah desparate times call for desparate measures, but when desparate times are a direct result of poor planning and not thinking...
Carolyn allowed her emotional response get in the way of the REAL issues there.
The M & M sisters could have, as I like to say, sold me DIRT. Yeesh, they TRIPLE beat em!
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Posted: 12/04/04 - 11:03 Post subject:
I lost count of how many times she said Look. Man that was annoying
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Posted: 12/04/04 - 11:05 Post subject:
I so didn't want to miss the episode. I'm asking for TIVO!!!
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Posted: 12/04/04 - 11:05 Post subject:
| Cappy wrote: | | I lost count of how many times she said Look. Man that was annoying |
uh huh... that LOOK was just bad!
you're right, El, Carolyn DID hang her out to dry...
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Posted: 12/04/04 - 11:14 Post subject:
| bpdou wrote: | yeah it was a good one...
so I would have fired her NOT for stripping, but for the fact that her stripping was a knee-jerk reaction to not HAVING A PLAN IN THE FIRST PLACE. And for being a LOUSY LEADER from the get-go. And for being a lousy manager on the street.
yeah yeah desparate times call for desparate measures, but when desparate times are a direct result of poor planning and not thinking...
Carolyn allowed her emotional response get in the way of the REAL issues there.
The M & M sisters could have, as I like to say, sold me DIRT. Yeesh, they TRIPLE beat em! |
I agree, I think the firing was two issues. 1, I think Carolyn was disgusted that Ivana tried to reduce herself to that. I'm sure Carolyn, a very pretty and very intelligent woman has had to overcome a lot to be where she is and I'm sure she isn't impressed when Ivana stoops to cheap stereotypes. But bigger still, 2, your point that she didn't have a plan, she didn't have control and she irrationally jumped to that choice. Not a leader. She even said "I didn't win but I'm good as a team player" That's lovely dear but Trump is hiring a leader, thank you buh bye.
And then to "LOOK" Trump?? She MAYBE could have very cooly, casually argued that the skirt thing was responsive strategy after learning the girls' pricing, etc. But when she off the bat was so defensive she obviously regretted the decision, and if she can so flippantly make such bad decisions, (no one even brought up what M&M/Mars would think of her stripping in association to their brand) bad decisions even SHE can't stand behind, why would anyone hire her?
I haven't liked her since she botched the first task she PM'd.
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Posted: 12/04/04 - 11:20 Post subject:
| cherylpf wrote: | And then to "LOOK" Trump?? She MAYBE could have very cooly, casually argued that the skirt thing was responsive strategy after learning the girls' pricing, etc. But when she off the bat was so defensive she obviously regretted the decision, and if she can so flippantly make such bad decisions, (no one even brought up what M&M/Mars would think of her stripping in association to their brand) bad decisions even SHE can't stand behind, why would anyone hire her?
I haven't liked her since she botched the first task she PM'd. |
Carolyn: "Don't say LOOK to him! That's very unprofessional."
Carolyn: "Ivana, we haven't said anything yet."
HA! No one will hire her because she's an idiot. Good luck finding a job after this one, honey.
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Posted: 12/04/04 - 11:22 Post subject:
| elkid wrote: |
Carolyn: "Don't say LOOK to him! That's very unprofessional."
Carolyn: "Ivana, we haven't said anything yet." |
I want to be her.
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Posted: 12/04/04 - 11:24 Post subject: Re: Apprentice (I love this show)
| cherylpf wrote: | | Discuss amongst yourselves. |
So, who is the winner? I mean, Trump must have a real idea about who's going to run one of his companies. Did anyone honestly think that Andy or Stacy would have made it to the final two? Unless Trump's job for the winner is insignificant, neither of them would've made it.
After the last Apprentice, I'm convinced that Trump isn't leaving the operation of one of his concerns to chance. Of course, maybe Odorosa is secretly running his casino operation.
But Ivana is a woman after my heart because it appears that she believes as do I: you can drop your pants but don't drop your beer. 
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Posted: 12/04/04 - 11:27 Post subject: Re: Apprentice (I love this show)
| Quote: | | But Ivana is a woman after my heart because it appears that she believes as do I: you can drop your pants but don't drop your beer. |
| msparks wrote: | So, who is the winner? I mean, Trump must have a real idea about who's going to run one of his companies. Did anyone honestly think that Andy or Stacy would have made it to the final two? Unless Trump's job for the winner is insignificant, neither of them would've made it.
After the last Apprentice, I'm convinced that Trump isn't leaving the operation of one of his concerns to chance. Of course, maybe Odorosa is secretly running his casino operation. |
I agree, but I also believe the producers have a major hand in how things are run and the outcomes of many of the episodes. I don't know exactly but I would imagine they might say "Trump, hold off on firing this one, etc" just to keep ratings good. But ultimately I think Trump knows who he's going to hire pretty early on.
Who is it?  Kevin is my gut instinct.
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Posted: 12/04/04 - 11:30 Post subject: Re: Apprentice (I love this show)
| msparks wrote: | | So, who is the winner? |
Money money money money! I'm going with Kevin. Dude graduated from Wharton, did a complete MBA program at Emory in ONE YEAR, and is in law school. He was once a viable candidate for the NFL (well-rounded) and is an entrepreneur. Cool, calm, collected. Never seen his feathers ruffled yet. I like this guy.
Kelly will be #2. He's a West Point grad, but can be a little emotional. The wimmins are too wishy washy.
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Posted: 12/04/04 - 11:32 Post subject: Re: Apprentice (I love this show)
| elkid wrote: |
Money money money money! I'm going with Kevin. Dude graduated from Wharton, did a complete MBA program at Emory in ONE YEAR, and is in law school. He was once a viable candidate for the NFL (well-rounded) and is an entrepreneur. Cool, calm, collected. Never seen his feathers ruffled yet. I like this guy.
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I think he has a good chance as well, his lack of work experience may hurt him. He has the brains though
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Posted: 12/04/04 - 11:35 Post subject: Re: Apprentice (I love this show)
| Cappy wrote: | | I think he has a good chance as well, his lack of work experience may hurt him. He has the brains though |
Lack of work experience? He founded and runs a software company. While simultaneously pursuing an education - even more impressive.
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