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TOsteve
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 Posted: 04/19/05 - 12:20 Post subject:
| brie k wrote: |
And that is what I truly believe, that everyone is responsible for it. And really, in my mind, it goes back to way before Jesus even entered the picture. If man had not been so apt to sin, Jesus never would have had to die.
The other thing I think about is the fact that the Jews are the chosen people. So if Caiaphus and all the other elders had just let Jesus do his thing, and then Jesus didn't die by crucifixion, then only the Jewish people would be saved. Where does that lead the Gentiles?
Of course if they had accepted Jesus as the Savior, then perhaps we'd be in a different world and we'd all be redeemed, period. I don't know. All I know is that as awful as Jesus' death was, we are all able to go to heaven because of it, and for that I am truly grateful.
Disclaimer: I don't know enough about this subject, and really, it makes my head hurt to get all academic about it, and I realize that my opinions could be totally off base. |
I think through the discussion here we've looked at this question from a number of different levels:
1) On the ground - clearly the people living in the Roman province of Palestine were hands on responsible for Jesus' death. You could argue whether that was ultimately the responsibility of the mainly Jewish citizenry, the Jewish High Council or Pilate (ie Rome) but I'm not sure there is much academic value in distinguishing (or am I wrong?).
2) When you pull out an look at a bigger picture - clearly it was God's will for Jesus to die for our sins and if you believe in the omnipotence of God you will agree that His will has a way of being done. Jesus himself, clearly knew that He was going to die and predicted His death on more than one ocassion. It was a forgone conclusion to His ministry on earth.
3) When you pull out an look at an even bigger picture - it was through the will of humankind that creation was in the predicament of being separated from God. Ultimately, it was because of humanity's own mistakes that they had broken fellowship with their Creator and required salvation, thereby making them responsible for Jesus' death.
Like almost everything, its all a matter of which level you want to approach the question. Sometimes approaching it from every level makes for the best paper.
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